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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    For me:
    1) GOD (he create everything you got... still a celebs until now!) / Including Jesus of course!
    If we're including gods then here's mine:

    1.) Zeus
    2.) Athena
    3.) Aphrodite
    4.) Prometheus
    5.) Ares...

    Ok I'l stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by option View Post
    1. Thucydides (the father of history and political realism)
    Personally I would have said Herodotus was the father of history.

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    Seconded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilder View Post
    If we're including gods then here's mine:

    1.) Zeus
    2.) Athena
    3.) Aphrodite
    4.) Prometheus
    5.) Ares...

    Ok I'l stop.
    more:
    1) Satan
    2) Lucifer
    3) Orcs
    4) Uruk-Hai
    5) Goblins

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    1) Satan
    2) Lucifer
    Are the same.
    This space intentionally left blank.

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    Let's keep this on-topic, OK?

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    Religious figures are banned from this competition. Anyways, before 0 BCE monotheism was almost nonexistent...Judaism was very, very small and still is today (17 million worldwide isn't that much)
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    Cleopatra too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamegeek2 View Post
    Religious figures are banned from this competition. Anyways, before 0 BCE monotheism was almost nonexistent...Judaism was very, very small and still is today (17 million worldwide isn't that much)
    ZZZZZooooo-aster....? Dualistic but close enough to be closer to monotheistic as opposed to heno(sp?).

    Poor Persians culture recognition getting the shaft since the Muslim conquest.


    You have to count the somewhat monotheistic N. American cultures as well.
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    Default Re: Top 5 Ancient Celebrities

    And what does this have to do with the purpose of the thread?

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    I was responding to his claim.
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    Yeah, but this is already turning into a religious-based thread that may change into a never ending debate. Especially when it comes to religion. It has to stop somewhere.

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    Yepp

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    Personally I would have said Herodotus was the father of history.
    Though Herodotos was more a storyteller than an actual historian imo. Thycidides had 'reliable' sources, whilst Herodotos often used legends, myths, rumors ...

    Stating Thycidides as the real father and Herodotos as the 'grandfather' seems closer to the truth imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus View Post
    Though Herodotos was more a storyteller than an actual historian imo. Thycidides had 'reliable' sources, whilst Herodotos often used legends, myths, rumors ...

    Stating Thycidides as the real father and Herodotos as the 'grandfather' seems closer to the truth imo.
    Exactly. Herodotos also included the gods and their actions as having an impact on real-world events, while Thucydides omits them from his history entirely. The fact that Thucydides used so many different sources from different perspectives in order to attain as objective a history as possible is also an area he pioneered.

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    Adding some more in no direct order:

    1. The guy who invented the fire ( no comment needed )
    2. The other guy who invented the wheel ( no comment needed )
    3. Solon ( first achitect of the athenian democracy )
    4. Kleisthenes ( reformer of the athenian democracy )
    5. Archimedes ( inventor )
    6. Ramses II ( one of the most knowen Pharaos )
    7. Pythagoras ( well, at some point every schoolkid has to learn his mathematical inventions )
    8. Echnaton ( founder of one of the first monotheistic religions )
    9. Hanno der große ( the political opponent of Hamilkar and later Hannibal )
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    LOL maion i understand you perfectly.
    But you mean deeds i think. In my language i could made that mistake all the same. :) as in portuguese feitos=deeds :) dont kown in greek but it could be similar

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    What? Deeds? Where did I something which should be deeds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny View Post
    Adding some more in no direct order:

    1. The guy who invented the fire ( no comment needed )
    2. The other guy who invented the wheel ( no comment needed )
    3. Solon ( first achitect of the athenian democracy )
    4. Kleisthenes ( reformer of the athenian democracy )
    5. Archimedes ( inventor )
    6. Ramses II ( one of the most knowen Pharaos )
    7. Pythagoras ( well, at some point every schoolkid has to learn his mathematical inventions )
    8. Echnaton ( founder of one of the first monotheistic religions )
    9. Hanno der große ( the political opponent of Hamilkar and later Hannibal )
    What about the 3 guys who independently invented farming all at aroudn the same time? What about that dude who got a bunch of his buddies and started taking villages over to create the first empire?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    What about the 3 guys who independently invented farming all at aroudn the same time? What about that dude who got a bunch of his buddies and started taking villages over to create the first empire?
    Don't forget the guy who discovered that if you raise a horse foal to adulthood it will become tame enough to be ridden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny
    2. The other guy who invented the wheel ( no comment needed )
    Yes, this one had great impact on technology, but unfortunately, the more modern a machine is, the less wheels it has.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonny
    6. Ramses II ( one of the most knowen Pharaos )
    Right, I am quite surprised that no pharaoh was mentioned before. There were pharaohs who did more than Ramses II, but as celebrity, this one is good, he had the best marketing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Andronikos View Post
    Right, I am quite surprised that no pharaoh was mentioned before. There were pharaohs who did more than Ramses II, but as celebrity, this one is good, he had the best marketing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus View Post
    5)Ramsessess II, for all the buildings he left us, for the skilled ruler he was and for his invention of good warpropaganda
    Eh? :p

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    1.Nebuchadnezzar
    2.Khufu
    3.Xenophon
    4.Darius the great
    5.Iphikrates
    6.Zalmoxis(don't know if he existed but some sources say he did)
    7.Vercingetorix
    8.Hanno the great
    9.

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    1) Augustus Caesar, for ending the civil wars and crowning himself emperor
    2) Mithridates King of Pontus, for kicking the roman ass out of Asia minor
    3) Ariminus the Cheruscan, for doing the same in Germania
    4) Megas Alexandros, well he is Megas after all
    5) Cleopatra, for being the most sexy women in antiquity, or so they say
    6) Last but not least Jesus of Nazzareth, the son of God to those who belive, he sad let the last be
    the first, and love thy enemy.

    Cheers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Reno Melitensis View Post
    6) Last but not least Jesus of Nazzareth, the son of God to those who belive, he sad let the last be
    the first, and love thy enemy.

    Cheers.
    You haven't been watching the demotivater thread have you?
    Last edited by Rilder; 07-13-2009 at 11:47.

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    Wow how can you guys have forgotten the first real superstar of the ancient world? How about Hellen? You know the "face that launched a thousand ships"?

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    She was a dumb whore who was used as an excuse to take out trading competition in the Aegean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xurr View Post
    Wow how can you guys have forgotten the first real superstar of the ancient world? How about Hellen? You know the "face that launched a thousand ships"?
    If you count the sailors on those ships you could say she was the face that launched 50 Thousand Seamen.

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    50 Thousand Seamen
    Avoid sexual jokes please. Just saying. Was gonna make one but thought better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xurr
    "face that launched a thousand ships"
    a vision of loveliness glimpsed through a nighmare of ruin and destruction

    Quote Originally Posted by Conradus
    Eh? :p
    Sorry, I'm blind and my dog is dead. And I'm sure somebody mentioned Achnaton too before.
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