Suggestion: Ireland

[/Bean\]

This might be straying a little too far from Ireland now. When I last checked oudysseos lived in the city of Dublin, not a nomad camp in the middle of the Irish steppe.

Going back to what Ludens was saying, I would argue against an Irish faction. I would prefer to have Ireland portrayed as the land too far sort of thing. I think it would be far more interesting to have the Brigantes, to combat the Casse. I hate to see Britain and Ireland completely united by 220. Even if the Brigantes expanded into Scotland, that wouldn't be so bad. It would divide the British Isles in two, which would be better than the Casse controlling all of it rather quickly.

While we're on the subject of Ireland, I would like to put a case forward for land bridges. I know that MedII and RTW have different land bridges. I was just wondering if the EB team would keep them all/add new ones etc. Because taking away the Irish one would be a good idea in my opinion. And can they have proper sea boundaries implemented, because I'm really annoyed with the Arche Seleukeia for keeping attacking me in Byzantion when I never even went near Asia Minor.

[moonburn]

sorry i just read the last reply and he talked about the deserts of arabia and africa and then went to the steppes and i started to wonder the steppes conditions and how best one could mimic them in here

as for the irish faction if there´s no one better or more worthy i think it would benefit the game

the same for the land bridge if we want the casse to stop being wusses then they need economical power to build armies and navies and invading and controling the british isles would give them that so the land bridges are required

[antisocialmunky]

Can't you just stick a few permafort/towns in Ireland and call it detailed?

[/Bean\]

Agreed.

[Skullheadhq]

That is a good idea!

[Cyclops]

This might be straying a little too far from Ireland now...

Yes, but not from Eremos, which is a vital element of game structure. Keeping vast swathes unconquerable has a distinct game effect keeping stacks from wandering unhistorically in search of desert cities of negligible importance.

I'm suggesting it can't be made capturable without tilting the map, and suggesting its excellent effects might be extended to the steppe.

As for reducing Ireland, well as pointed out above there will be some excellent opportunities to tinker with province structure given the promising developments with PSFs. If you are hunting for fat to trim I guess you need to back up suggestions with data eg "Ireland had a population of 3 men and 1 goat in the EB period according too...[cite sources]".

[Skullheadhq]

Yes, but not from Eremos, which is a vital element of game structure. Keeping vast swathes unconquerable has a distinct game effect keeping stacks from wandering unhistorically in search of desert cities of negligible importance.

I'm suggesting it can't be made capturable without tilting the map, and suggesting its excellent effects might be extended to the steppe.

As for reducing Ireland, well as pointed out above there will be some excellent opportunities to tinker with province structure given the promising developments with PSFs. If you are hunting for fat to trim I guess you need to back up suggestions with data eg "Ireland had a population of 3 men and 1 goat in the EB period according too...[cite sources]".

There are NO sources for Ireland 272BC, and I don't think there were any sources of Ireland in 14AD either.

[Watchman]

There are NO sources for Ireland 272AD, and I don't think there were any sources of Ireland in 14AD either.

Fair enough, though I imagine the lack of sources from 272 BC might be more relevant here...

...eg "Ireland had a population of 3 men and 1 goat in the EB period according too...[cite sources]".

Wasn't that the 2008 census ?

[/Bean\]

I think thats more likely to be the 1852 census...

[Cyclops]

...Wasn't that the 2008 census ?

The goat turned out to be a one-eyed Aussie tourist with a gaming addiction.

[Skullheadhq]

[helenos aiakides]

Nabataeans? They fit in the timeframe, and from what i read were independant and fought was in there area

[Cartaphilus]

Why not another "eremos" region in the russian or assian steppes?

In Empire TW there are some of these wilderness regions in North America and Asia.