Is obesity a left-wing issue? (Query about Fox news)

[Crazed Rabbit]

Unless it's because of logistics(ie. the cabin crew won't fit in the plane....), I really can't see why on earth a persons looks should determine their job. Especially not jobs like cabin crew, where looks are completely irrelevant.

I wasn't talking about looks, but about prohibiting the morbidly obese. Extra weight means extra costs for a plane, and significantly higher difficulty moving around a plane. In short, because of their weight they are less able to perform their duties.

Qualifications should determine whether a person gets the job or not. Not looks, heritage, wealth, sex, race or religion. Period.

For certain jobs employers can discriminate on looks because of what's called 'customer bias' - in that customers don't want to see ugly people, so if you hire them they won't patronize your business. Mostly applies to places like Hooters.

CR

[HoreTore]

For certain jobs employers can discriminate on looks because of what's called 'customer bias' - in that customers don't want to see ugly people, so if you hire them they won't patronize your business. Mostly applies to places like Hooters.

.....Which is just plain sexist, and there's no way that should ever be allowed.

[Centurion1]

And now fragony you can see the beauty.... and the inner evil of living in such a large country. what once made us tough outdoors men, has now turned us into lards (not saying fat people aren't tough).

[Fragony]

And now fragony you can see the beauty.... and the inner evil of living in such a large country. what once made us tough outdoors men, has now turned us into lards (not saying fat people aren't tough).

Oh I like America, ownage by proxy I guess. Like comming there anyhow, nice place.

[Centurion1]

Well the Netherlands are nice and i find the people there to be more centrist politically than the rest of Europe.

[Ice]

.....Which is just plain sexist, and there's no way that should ever be allowed.

Do you know what "Hooters" is?

[Crazed Rabbit]

.....Which is just plain sexist, and there's no way that should ever be allowed.

So, employers shouldn't be allowed to hire the people who will help their business the most?

And btw, this is the Hooters I'm talking of; http://www.hooters.com/home.aspx Probably not exactly work safe.

CR

[Centurion1]

Hah, if hore tore is serious he is basically saying, that it is sexist when playboy wont hire men as centerfolds. There are limits to where work discrimination applies. certain jobs are and can be legally designated as gender-specific. Mostly those that involve sex appeal. nothing wrong with that and it is not sexist in the least. The day a bi-gender porno rag gains appeal will be the day i put a bullet in my head.

[HoreTore]

Do you know what "Hooters" is?

Yes I do, and I see no reason for them to exist. And I see their very existence as proof that our society still has a long way to go.

So, employers shouldn't be allowed to hire the people who will help their business the most?

So.....

You believe that shop owners should feel free to avoid hiring gay people because the shop is in a conservative area...?

Hah, if hore tore is serious he is basically saying, that it is sexist when playboy wont hire men as centerfolds. There are limits to where work discrimination applies. certain jobs are and can be legally designated as gender-specific. Mostly those that involve sex appeal. nothing wrong with that and it is not sexist in the least. The day a bi-gender porno rag gains appeal will be the day i put a bullet in my head.

I'll happily make certain exceptions. Bars, shops and cabin crews are not on the list though. Because honestly, it's irrelevant.

[Centurion1]

Bars my friend are not irrelevant to this country and too the rest of the world. They bring in hundreds of billions of dollars a year. If you shut down bars because they were being sexist in fitting into their theme (be it hunks or babes) entire cities could be ruined ie Vegas.

People enjoy vices and hooters is definitely an innocent vice so men like pretty girls serving them food, its not like they are prostitutes or even strippers. Many people will tell you they go to hooters for the hot wings..... and they are serious

[Crazed Rabbit]

So.....

You believe that shop owners should feel free to avoid hiring gay people because the shop is in a conservative area...?

And you clearly believe in strawman arguments.

CR

[HoreTore]

And you clearly believe in strawman arguments.

....And you do not?

[Ronin]

Yes I do, and I see no reason for them to exist. And I see their very existence as proof that our society still has a long way to go.

Indeed we do....

I hope that one day we can have a bar on every corner with hot waitresses that are completely topless...this 'tight tank top' thing is for sissies...

I have a dream!!

[HoreTore]

Indeed we do....

I hope that one day we can have a bar on every corner with hot waitresses that are completely topless...this 'tight tank top' thing is for sissies...

I have a dream!!

I honestly can't see why the hotness of the waitress has anything to do with whether I go to a bar or not, because:

1. She's at work. She won't come home with me.
2. She's sober. I will be drunk. You can't hit on sober people when you're drunk, that's rule #1.
3. I will be thirsty, I will be looking for the beer.
4. With my beer goggles on, everyone is a supermodel.
5. She will be over at the beer, working. I will be at my table, drinking and chatting with friends. Contact is highly unlikely.
6. I will be looking for hot costumers, as they will also be drinking and as such could well end up in my bed later.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Why should a business-owner get told who he/she can or cannot employ? If it's a private business, then it should be up to the employer and the employer alone.

If the employer is really being bigoted then why make the government step on him, instead of just letting the people speak? Boycotts or whatever would do fine surely.