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    From I know, hoplites do carry swords, but they rarely used it. Anyway, if u include them, they'll turn into damm hypastists who switch to swords in 15 seconds. Urgh!

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    All spearmen carried sidearms for backup (spear-shafts tended to break sooner or later) and close combat where the spear was useless. Doesn't mean there's much point in putting them in the game, not in the least given the aforementioned annoyances with the weapon switching.
    Plus it'd mesh kinda poorly and inconsistently with other spearmen that also have for example precursor javelins (eg. the Thureophoroi) and blatantly obviously carry swords on their hips too...
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    OT question, how does one throw javalins when one hand's clutching the bundle, and the other holding the spear?




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    One holds the spear in the same hand as the rest of the javelin, methinks. (People can actually hold an awful lot of stuff in their shield hand with a little practice, from what I've read of firsthand experiments with it.)
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    It would probably be enough if you just made it so they didn't suffer from the -4 to defense from light spear since they do infact have a side arm. That by itself would make them better as a spearman. That -4 defense really makes hoplites melt vs anything with AP or high lethality or fast attack animation. You could also stick like a +1 to attack or defense or something to differentiate them from spearmen who don't have a secondary(and therefore would suffer in CQB).
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    ...to differentiate them from spearmen who don't have a secondary(and therefore would suffer in CQB).
    No such thing. Didn't I very specifically explain this already above ? Noone was so dumb as to assume his spear would last forever or remain useful all the time, and carried at minimum a big knife to have something besides his bare hands in a pinch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TruePraetorian View Post
    I rarely post at the TWC (3 posts) but felt inclined to do so (and so I did). Disrespect of the hardworking EB team is illogical. If you don't like something about the mod, change it..you can make a minimod out of it and ask people to download it out of free will.
    I rarely post there too! Is it just me or are majority of EB threads here on the Guild?
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