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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Before you say anything, I'll let you in on a piece of information. In every single century during the entire history of mankind, save two, either China and India have occupied numbers one and two in terms of rank of gross GDP. [..] What we are seeing with the "rise" of China and India is not some freak accident, but rather a realignment of of the natural order of the peoples.
    I'll let you in on another bit of information. In every single century before the last, horsepower was the dominant factor in transport. These days it is the combustion engine. It may have triumphed for the longest time, but when its final day comes it will certainly not be replaced by the horse again. That's because there is no natural order of transport.

    For similar reasons, which every reader can figure out for himself, there is no natural order of peoples. That's a historicist fallacy of the first order. By the way you are absolutely right that Europe should get organised (and get its house in order) in order to cope with the rise of new power blocks and changing relationships among the older ones.

    Even so, all of this has little bearing on Furunculus' post, which seems to refute accusations that the ECR is a political trash can and particuarly that Michał Kamiński is a anti-semite. I haven't had time to look into this, but since I am committed by my earlier posts I will do so. I hope other will address the substance of his post as well.
    Last edited by Adrian II; 07-31-2009 at 19:55.
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