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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    That is a con in the long term and certainly not a "general populace benefit."
    No offence, but that is irrational anti-EU righteous hogwash.

    Edit: As I am curious, how is that a con in the long term ?

    Edit2: As I am trully a curious person, I'm also wondering. How is that every anti-EU person keeps repeating that an european con/federation would lead to WWIII or to a bloodbath, knowing that WWI & II were caused by nationalistic feelings and century old-hatreds? For all I know, the EU is one of the best ways to fight nationalism (which has in any case disappeared from most of western Europe), and to create friendship between countries who usually cannot stand eachothers.
    As examples, I'd show France and Germany (who were main/important protagonists during the 2 WW's), Bulgaria and Romania, the UK and Ireland.
    Now, give me one good reason as to why the EU is going to cause WWIII.

    For all I know, given historical examples, you, dear anti-EU crowd, are the main opponent to a lasting peace in Europe. YOU are underlining your supposed differences and specific cultures (lol), and thus promoting an outdated nationalism that caused more harm than good so far. YOU are teaming up with far-right nutjobs from all over the place to fight teh Evil European Empire of Death and protect an sovereignty that never existed in the first place.

    See, I can make stupid arguments too.
    Last edited by Meneldil; 06-23-2009 at 20:10.

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