Mafia Mongolica [Concluded]

[Reenk Roink]

Note how despite arguing (quite spuriously imo) against revealing the rest of the investigations, Atpg has verbally said in the thread "I'll have to reveal, probably" and yet we still have nothing a long time after that statement.

Now that TinCow's suggestion of post mortem hints has been explicitly forbidden by khaan, I don't really see the need to keep us in the dark or keep us waiting...

Also, note from Atpg's PM to me after I tested him, that he seemed then willing to give me the investigation results.

However, it would be tactically beneficial for me to take me up on your offer to "reveal" for me.

So what happened now? Why the change in opinion? It can't seriously be to hide yourself anymore, as you have claimed.

I pondered this on the way to work this morning. Despite my previous statements, there's something about this that isn't sitting right with me. Simply put, Ichigo seems like an odd choice for an investigation last night. Of all the people to investigate, he just seems... unlikely. Given the last few days events, would anyone else have picked him? It also conveniently coincides with the first double kill last night, which, combined with ATPG's claim of an 'uncertain' detective ability is almost too good to be true.

I still support Ichigo's lynch here, but I'm beginning to come around to Reenk's thought process on this. Perhaps it would be best to remove ATPG next round just to make sure.

Well, given what I would do with the power, Ichigo seems a reasonable enough choice in that I think it's best especially early on to investigate those players who haven't had much exposed about them in the main thread.

With that being said, if the speculation that Beskar is one of the investigations, than Atpg had investigated two really active in thread players. Given that he has failed to give us the third, it's still hard to see if we can draw a disconnect between Ichigo and other investigations though, so take that with a grain of salt.

What I think is more odd is the fact that he investigated Ichigo twice. Yes, he can use the reason that given that there wasn't a kill, maybe Ichigo was active, but the same exact reasoning could be used on me (given that there was 1 kill, maybe I was inactive). He didn't bother to check me twice before contacting me with his role.

I won't protest about the lynch, because I know many will support it in a "covering our butt" move even though I am innocent. However,

Make sure if you must. But it is a wasted lynch, that is all I can say.

On the contrary. Your lynch would be beneficial to the town even if you are proven later to be who you say you are. This is because as of now, the context of the game and yourself is one of high confusion and doubt.

Your behavior as detective and watcher is very questionable in several areas thoroughly exposed since your reveal and outside factors such as the kill choices also contribute to the suspicion against you.

Frankly, I believe the two strongest options for who you are are:

1) Mafia
2) Investigatory role who is trying to look suspicious enough to stay alive but is failing by going to the other extreme

Both of these lynches would do good. The first for obvious reasons, the second because at this point, you are causing more detriment to the town with the uncertain nature of yourself. You are a source of confusion at this point, and that outweighs the potential benefit you might have of investigating. The longer you live, the more doubt and uncertainty you cause, and also the more dangerous you become if you really are Mafia (as your partner is probably alive at this point).

Lastly, does it not seem really odd to anyone else that in many of Atpg's posts he implies he will live this coming night...

We have some time left. Why not take the safe play now and lynch Atpg next round or the one after that if he lives, and then go back to finding the other bad guy(s)?

Can you think of anyone who has a better reason for voting against? The only one on that level is White eyes.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh boy, some people are so impatient.

I'm on top of things, Reenk. Just cool your heels.

[seireikhaan]

Today was rather different day at the council. Immediately upon its pronouncement by Shinzei, a man immediately stood up and declared to all that he had seen Ichigo kill one of the last night's dead, or at least was leaving the tent. Ichigo at first made no response to such an accusation, and immediately, many else in the camp jumped on the accusation, chanting for his merciless execution as a spy. Shinzei, however, demanded that the council follow the letter of its rule, and last until the sun began to set. With not much else to discuss, several tribesmen decided to go for a ride and took off for a while, figuring the decision was inevitable. As the day dragged on, Ichigo remained silent, until very late, when he finally opened his eyes and smiled a bit. He stated he'd not even been in the camp last night, and as such, couldn't have killed anyone. However, the other tribesmen were unimpressed, and the general anxiety for his lynch would remain until sunset. Of course, this all made my job of keeping track of the most accused most easy for the council's purpose. When the day was finished, Shinzei asked for a recitation of both those who wished for Ichigo's death, as well as those who did not establish a position. When he noted that a man named Lord Winter had failed to speak up once again, he demanded of the others where he was. Incidentally, Lord Winter was riding past the camp on his pony as Shinzei made his query, and was quickly pointed out. Shinzei grabbed his bow, nocked an arrow, and let it fly at Lord Winter, who was riding very far away. Amazingly, the arrow struck true, directly through the back of the man's head, and the camp could see his body slowly slump off the horse in the distance. Shinzei muttered something about useless pieces of flesh... With that out of the way, Ichigo was presented to his executor. Ichigo stood in front of Shinzei, a scowl beginning to grow across his face. However, when Shinzei pulled his sword from its sheath, the doomed man did not twitch. Shinzei took hold of the sword in two hands, and made an upwards plunge into Ichigo's chest. With the sword embedded, Shinzei then made a vicious ripping motion to the right, causing the rib cage to explode in a repugnant display of blood, bone, and organs. Shinzei motioned to a few tribesmen to carry the carcass outside the camp, then dismissed us for the night.

-- The Record of Zhang Qian


Ichigo: 9 (Askthepizzaguy, pevergreen, Chaotix, Beskar, Jolt, Tratorix, gibsonsg91921, White_Eyes:D, Death is Yonder)

Roadrunner: 1(splitpersonality)

Not Voting: WAY TOO MANY (Ichigo, A Very Super Market, Caius, DJgingivitis, Khazaar, Lord Winter, Sigurd, Tratorix)



Alive: 15

Askthepizzaguy
A Very Super Market
Beskar
Caius
Chaotix
Death is Yonder
DJGingivtis
Gibsonsg91921
Jolt
Khazaar
Lord Winter
pevergreen
Sigurd
Tratorix
White_eyes:D

Dead: 5

Yaropolk (N1)
Atheotes (N2)
GeneralHankerchief (N3)
Reenk Roink (N5)
YLC (N5)

Lynched: 4

FactionHeir (D1)
Beefy (D2)
Splitpersonality (D3)
TinCow (D4)
Ichigo (D5)

WoK'd: 1

Lord Winter (D5)


WOK BAIT: Caius


TAKING ORDERS NOW.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Reenk Roink be dead, sire!

He's not dead, he's just resting. He's got wonderful plumage.

[pevergreen]

I 'd.

[A Very Super Market]

Kill him again! I didn't kill him enough last time!

[Jolt]

I 'd.

Me too!

[seireikhaan]

[Reenk Roink]

If you're going to kill someone other than Atpg or White eyes this coming day, just go ahead and give AVSM what he wants...

Sorry for my inactivity khaan, I'll try to participate more in the voting next round.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Personally, Reenk, I'd very much like it if the mafia targeted you tonight. No hard feelings, right?

I made appropriate changes to my post.

...Six?

[seireikhaan]

Umm. Sorry if therre might be a slight, uh, delay in getting the night writeup(s) posted. I'm donw with family in missourie right now, and am smashed on whiskey. Give it just a slight bit logner please.

[DJGingivitis]

You drunk. haha that would be an interesting write up however.

[Jolt]

I'm sure such a write-up would involve an epic battle between the assassined person(s), the assassin(s), and dragons dwarves and elves and aliens all seeking to gain surpremacy in the khaan encampment.

[Caius]

I'm sure such a write-up would involve an epic battle between the assassined person(s), the assassin(s), and dragons dwarves and elves and aliens all seeking to gain surpremacy in the khaan encampment.

Don't forget the octosquids.

[Askthepizzaguy]

All right... I should have been dead by now, but while I'm still alive, I guess I can answer your questions now regarding who was investigated.

[seireikhaan]

Jolt figured out what was really up with all these recent deaths. Not who was the spy, of course, but he did piece one thing together. All those killed were in their tent at their moment of demise. So, Jolt figured, he could avoid the killers by simply avoiding his tent. It was flawless. So, when the council was finished, Jolt hopped very quickly back to his tent to make sure that things were in order, then jaunted over to where his horse was tied up, and hopped on. He gave his steed a gentle urging to go a slight pace, them rested his chest and head down upon the horse's back. He drifted off into a gentle sleep atop his magnificent beast....

A man was crouched outside of the bounds of the camp. He witnessed someone sneaking out of the tent for a nice ride. He could see the horse trotting along the steppe in the moonlight given off by the clear night sky. The man put an arrow to his bow, then swiveled his head for a few seconds around the camp. He then turned his head back to the steed in the distance. He drew back his bow string, and let an arrow fly. The arrow missed off slighly, but still struck the horse just above its front right shoulder. The horse took a frontal nose dive as the man nocked another arrow.

*WHAM*
Jolt was jolted awake by a harsh blow to his face. He was scattered on the ground with his horse, which was winnying and thrashing in pain. In the confusion, Jolt just managed to extricate himself from the animal, scrambled away and stood up. No sooner had he done just that when he heard a faint twanging in the distance, followed by a quaint whistle. Unsure of what was about, Jolt merely stood his ground, until he felt an arrow lodge itself at the base of his neck. The force behind the arrow nocked him to the ground. Jolt lay beside his wounded, thrashing animal, blood pouring from his own wound as he gave a similar performance. Finally, after a few minutes, Jolt lay still beside the panicked animal....


A good fire. Warmth. That was all people really needed, Chaotix theorized. That was all we really need in this life. People, they betray you. Food and drink are fleeting. So Chaotix sat in his tent, a blanket around his shoulder, his eyes closed, and enjoyed the simple warmth of the flames. He heard his tent open up, and gave a peak out from under his eyelids. A man was standing there, sword in hand. Chaotix merely sat in place, unmoving. "If this is to be the time of my death, than so be it," he said aloud. The man tilted his head a bit in puzzlment, but went forward. Sword in both hands, he gave a mighty swing, and severed Chaotix's head in a single swing. Before leaving, he laid the blanket over the body.






When I was awakened the next morning by the rising sun once more, I felt a slightly queasy. Men were rushing to and fro. More deaths, it seems, had occured during the night. I packed my brush and paper and set off for the council in a hurry. Most strange, however, was that when I arrived, Shinzei was not there. I took a position by myself on the outskirts of where the tribesmen were congregating. After what seemed like an eternity passed by, Shinzei was finally spotted as he lumbered over to the council. He was visibly not feeling well. He was slightly hunched over and had a hand on his head. He sat down at his usual position, and I then sat down next to him. I asked him what had happened to him, curious as to what had caused his apparent predicament. He took a very long time in moving his face to meet mine, and gave me an irritated glare. He informed me that I would most likely not desire to know. Then he turned his head back, and threw a hand into the air to signal the council's beginning.

--The Record of Zhang Qian


Alive: 12

Askthepizzaguy
A Very Super Market
Beskar
Caius
Death is Yonder
DJGingivtis
Gibsonsg91921
Khazaar
pevergreen
Sigurd
Tratorix
White_eyes:D

Dead: 7

Yaropolk (N1)
Atheotes (N2)
GeneralHankerchief (N3)
Reenk Roink (N5)
YLC (N5)
Chaotix (N6
Jolt (N6)

Lynched: 5

FactionHeir (D1)
Beefy (D2)
Splitpersonality (D3)
TinCow (D4)
Ichigo (D5)

WoK'd: 1

Lord Winter


BEGIN DAY PHASE! 36 HOURS. PLEASE KEEP A RUNNING TALLY.

[gibsonsg91921]

This calls for a round of spaghetti and meatballs.

Vote: Khazaar because you haven't made a splash either way and something is fishy.

[Beskar]

If I were Mafia I would keep you around....just WIFOM talking...

And if you were wrong I WOULD REALLY keep you around (Insane detectives are a Mafia's best buddy)

As long as your not going to spam the thread, I don't mind

It is set in stone for Ichigo Why I even bothered to warn town is beyond me..

Vote:Ichigo

I played Khaans games before and he doesn't
cut a mafia's kills just because one is lynched...I also think you guys were trying to swap that under the rug as well...truth is, there is no way to know if you are telling the truth or not..

If the kills keep up and ATPG is lying, we only have 11 people left at a rate of 2 kills per night=
We only have three lynchs left if it stays at 2 kills (which I think is a high possibility but after posting this I just rendered that useless or at best WIFOM)

Ichigo is gone, I don't care but don't forget ATPG's behavior up to this point....that is all I ask

These plus a lot of other posts look like White_Eyes:D framed AskthePizzaGuy up for a lynch, in otherwords, gets in another round at least of survival. He was sure AskthePizzaGuy will get lynched over this, hence why he survived the night.

White_Eyes:D knew the kills would be the same, regardless whether or not the Mafia went down. I believe the detective reveal of Ichigo to be genuine hence why White_Eyes:D revealed all he had against AskthePizzaGuy to get him deader than a dodo.

So all in all, this is just a round where the Mafia set up the lynch target to the town, so they get a free pass.

Vote: White_Eyes:D

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am not totally convinced of that. DJGingivitis just messaged me asking to spill the beans. I think he has a legitimate point. I really think the townies need to decide if I reveal all my information now.

White_Eyes looks scummy, and he's been a total pain in my side, but that's too simple an explanation. I am not voting until we have this discussion about my reveal. Some townies do not want me to reveal everything I know, and some do.

I'm not happy.

[Jolt]

ATPG & White_Eyes are the ones who should die in my opinion.

[Reenk Roink]

I am not totally convinced of that. DJGingivitis just messaged me asking to spill the beans. I think he has a legitimate point. I really think the townies need to decide if I reveal all my information now.

White_Eyes looks scummy, and he's been a total pain in my side, but that's too simple an explanation. I am not voting until we have this discussion about my reveal. Some townies do not want me to reveal everything I know, and some do.

I'm not happy.

Oh come on Pizza, how many more posts of discussion do you want? Is there anything left to discuss? We discussed hypothetical scenarios to death before khaan killed them all and said no post mortem hinting allowed.

Now then, to make up for all my inactivity and lost voting:

Vote: Atpg
Vote: Atpg
Vote: Atpg
Vote: Atpg
Vote: Atpg

[Beskar]

I don't see the much of the case against PizzaGuy. If anything, I think White_Eyes:D basically outright told everyone he was the Mafia. He spoke about charging up kills, how the kills won't drop if one mafia dies. He also tried to scum PizzaGuy up the wall with his posts against him and defending Ichigo, an exposed Mafia.

What more is there to say? it is an obvious framing ploy by White_Eyes:D to get him lynched.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Good discussion, Reenk.

vote: Askthepizzaguy

[Askthepizzaguy]

Bah, scratch that, having a sarcastic attitude never helps matters. I feel that unless you lynch me, there will always be a question as to my innocence or guilt. And you won't be able to move on unless that curiosity is satisfied. However, it is still a wasted lynch and there could be two mafia remaining. I could be getting false results. The dead are calling for my head, and I don't blame them. Even my supporters last round ended up wavering and decided I should die this round.

And so, I shall. I've already made the information available to a couple of townies, and they know what's up. I am ready to die. For town!

[White_eyes:D]

No...I am totally all for getting lynched (If only to make Beskar eat his words...vote away)
Vote:White_eyes:D

[Askthepizzaguy]

come now, White_Eyes. You wanted me lynched all game. Now's your chance.

[White_eyes:D]

I know you will follow me shortly....
So it's ok this time...besides...I can't see why town is being slow right now??

[Askthepizzaguy]

All right, White_Eyes, let's see how much of a townie you are. I'm sending you my information.

You just keep your vote right where it is, though. Then, after you see the info, tell me what I'm supposed to do.

[White_eyes:D]

Man?? I feel like a boned fish...first Reenk...now you?? (Your lying and withholding Information screwed town...BOTH you and Reenk)

Just lynch me so I don't need to deal with this

I looked it over and I just don't see why you would do this if you were town or EVEN mafia...(It's too much for even me to suck in)

[Askthepizzaguy]

well that's a start.

In my opinion, it was a good idea on paper, but now it's just a big pile of stinky WIFOM. Even I don't know what to do at this point. It's a bit too suicidal for you, because you would be the last mafia and now you'd have to obviously backtrack after I vote for you, giving you 3 votes. Those are some pretty big diamonds. I wouldn't put it past him though, it's a good plan because it buys him time. But it could just as easily be a townie move. And so I don't know what to do.

There's too much WIFOM here for me to think straight.

unvote, vote: Caius

Lurking, voted only for TinCow and myself, no discussion.