Spartan Shoes/Boots?

**Phalanx300** · 08-04-2009, 19:09

Spartans had apparantly a special type of shoe and seeing how conservative it was it most likely used it at EBs time frame as well.

Though it would definately be a special sight to see crimson red shoes.

http://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/vie...p?f=19&t=26877

**paramedicguyer** · 08-04-2009, 19:45

heads up, another on the forum have made a similar comment about spartan shoes?lack of shoes. Find sources. title or ISBN would be great for the book by sekunda mentioned in the url. Am I to assume it is an osprey publishinng

**Megas Methuselah** · 08-05-2009, 00:10

Originally Posted by Phalanx300

Spartans had apparantly a special type of shoe and seeing how conservative it was it most likely used it at EBs time frame as well.

Lol. Assuming the Spartans used outdated equipment solely because they were "conservative" is somewhat ridiculous:

Hey, guess what?! I think the Spartans used stone-tipped spears and wooden armour during EB's timeframe, seeing how conservative they were and all!

**paramedicguyer** · 08-05-2009, 00:44

Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

Lol. Assuming the Spartans used outdated equipment solely because they were "conservative" is somewhat ridiculous:

Hey, guess what?! I think the Spartans used stone-tipped spears and wooden armour during EB's timeframe, seeing how conservative they were and all!

Dude, I'm sure you've read the new thread from krusader...so why be lke that?

**Aemilius Paulus** · 08-05-2009, 03:33

Originally Posted by paramedicguyer

Dude, I'm sure you've read the new thread from krusader...so why be lke that?

Meth was not spamming, it was a jest in the topic of the thread and completely legitimate IMHO. And he had a point too. Nor did he disrupt the thread by prompting more spam, other than my Apology.

**MeinPanzer** · 08-05-2009, 02:22

Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

Lol. Assuming the Spartans used outdated equipment solely because they were "conservative" is somewhat ridiculous:

Hey, guess what?! I think the Spartans used stone-tipped spears and wooden armour during EB's timeframe, seeing how conservative they were and all!

We have a statue from the 2nd c. AD showing these boots in use from Sparta.

**Megas Methuselah** · 08-05-2009, 03:31

Originally Posted by paramedicguyer

Dude, I'm sure you've read the new thread from krusader...so why be lke that?

It was an honest reply. Being "conservative" isn't enough of a reason to conclude Spartans used outdated equipment. Unfortunately for me...

Originally Posted by MeinPanzer

We have a statue from the 2nd c. AD showing these boots in use from Sparta.

... the professor appeared and brought proper evidence. *exasperated sigh*

EDIT: Wait, is this statue entirely conclusive? For all we know, judging by the fact that this statue was dated to the 2nd century AD, these boots could merely have been a revived fashion in Sparta, a fashion which was non-existent during EB's timeframe. I'm not saying that this was the case, but we'd need more solid evidence to deduce that these particular boots were widely used amongst the Spartans during EB's timeframe.

**Phalanx300** · 08-05-2009, 20:37

Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

Lol. Assuming the Spartans used outdated equipment solely because they were "conservative" is somewhat ridiculous:

Hey, guess what?! I think the Spartans used stone-tipped spears and wooden armour during EB's timeframe, seeing how conservative they were and all!

OMGWTF... They use Pilos helmet which was around way back and bronze muscled cuirasses as well. They grow bears which was an Archaic practice.

Same with their long cloaks.

And hell they still fight as Hoplites here!

THEY DO USE OUTDATED EQUIPMENT ALREADY!!

I gues that makes them stone age men?

**Watchman** · 08-05-2009, 20:47

Dude. Spears are nevar outdated. Whaddya think the bayonet is ?

**Phalanx300** · 08-05-2009, 20:49

Originally Posted by Watchman

Dude. Spears are nevar outdated. Whaddya think the bayonet is ?

A knife on a stick?

Well I gues you can call that a spear.

**Azathoth** · 08-07-2009, 04:03

They grow bears

Holy ****!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Oh, I see - you meant beards

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**Megas Methuselah** · 08-07-2009, 04:13

Originally Posted by Phalanx300

OMGWTF... They use Pilos helmet which was around way back and bronze muscled cuirasses as well. They grow bears which was an Archaic practice.

Same with their long cloaks.

And hell they still fight as Hoplites here!

THEY DO USE OUTDATED EQUIPMENT ALREADY!!

I gues that makes them stone age men?

Until someone brings along some hard evidence, I'll give your unreasoned logic the benefit of the doubt.

**Phalanx300** · 08-09-2009, 16:14

Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

Until someone brings along some hard evidence, I'll give your unreasoned logic the benefit of the doubt.

Indeed, so unreasoned, Spartan shoes are a thing later adapted like the Pilos, and there has been many mentions of Spartan/Lakonian shoes.

What many are doubting from The Spartan Army book is that he claims Spartan shoes were crimson red, the fact that they existed isn't.

http://books.google.nl/books?q=Spartan+Shoes

Edit: Here is a quote of that book about the shoe:

Even so, we hear of a special type of Lakonian shoe. Literary sources describe it as being single-soled (haplai). Demosthenes (54. 34) referred to 'those who Lakonize with their tribounes and single-soled footwear'. Consenquently, we can identify the open-toed sandal with a tongue at the top, on statues of Greek philosophers, as the Lakonian shoe. Pollux (Onom. 7. 88) informed us the shoe was coloured red (not crimson).