Conseil du Royaume

[ULC]

Oh great.

So, how are the noblemen of House Bretagne supposed to go back home after this Conseil has ended?

Gaetan raises an eyebrow in confusion.

"Thierry de Rochefort, I must ask - how did they get here in the first place? How did you? Did God himself take you from Rennes and drop you upon Paris safely? No, I think not, and what you propose does more harm then good."

[Andres]

Gaetan raises an eyebrow in confusion.

"Thierry de Rochefort, I must ask - how did they get here in the first place? How did you? Did God himself take you from Rennes and drop you upon Paris safely? No, I think not, and what you propose does more harm then good."

We got here by travelling. You know, you mount a horse and ride towards your destination.

The Edict 1.11, as interpreted by some nitpickers like Duke Hugues here, would forbid Duke de Rohan and his vassals to travel back to Rennes.

[_Tristan_]

From my understanding Sieur de Rochefort, you are here under a laissez-passer from my cousin Guillaume which allows you and your retinue to come before this assembly and return peacefully to your fief (OOC : My IC explanation to what OK mentioned hereabove...)

I see no reason for my cousin to refuse another such laissez-passer should you require it, while we remain under a state of truce. But I do not think he would take kindly to you and your men marching under arms through what he thinks of as his territory. I know him to be a bit "territorial" and I think all our efforts would be for nothing if scores of French nobles went gallivanting through his lands.

So I will not change a word to my proposed Edict. If you want to be able to cross from Bretagne to any other point of France under arms, you should maybe ask our soon-to-be-appointed Seneschal to try and negociate a military access from my cousin.

As to the scribes' concerns, Hugues, I meant to have my son modify his Amendment not his Edict.

[Andres]

With all due respect, mon Roi, but your Edict doesn't make that distinction.

If we want to go from Paris to Rennes, then there's no other choice then to pass English lands. Your Edict forbids that, so doing so would be a violation of the Edict, as it is worded now.

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OOC: I know that OOC there's no problem to come to the Conseil in person, but it makes no sense IC, so Thierry will probably keep hammering on this. If the Edict passes, then I'll ask Zim to put my avatar in Paris as starting position. For RP'ing purposes, it just seems wrong to me to be able to "fly" to Paris every 10 years without it being considered a breach of the law IC

[_Tristan_]

You're welcome to remain in Paris, de Rochefort, if you fear the treachery of my cousin. I could have use of you in taking Bruges.

From there, you would be able to take ship to go back to Bretagne and hence, follow the letter of the law.

I will nevertheless change a few words to my Edict to make provisions for such situations as those you have pointed out.

Edict 1.11: No armies under French command (OOC : under the command of an ingame avatar or an ingame avatar) shall cross the borders into Norman (English) lands for the duration of the King's truce, which is to be ended only by direct declaration from the King. The Seneschal shall be required to immediately disband the armies of any general who violates this Edict.

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OOC: I do not see the problem, Andres. In either KotR or LotR, we had avatars crossinig lines upon lines of enemy provinces to be present in the Diet or Magnaura and this wothout causing the slightest concern, even though some were even under siege. But I can understand the dichotomy it creates but I've chosen to work around it.

[OverKnight]

Hugues rubs the bridge of his nose.

Well, perhaps what we need is a really tremendous catapult. Something that could fling Chevalier de Rochefort a great distance. . .for the purpose of transporting him over English lands of course.

[Andres]

Thierry bows towards the King.

Thank you for addressing my concerns, mylord.

If my Duke allows it, I'd be honored to help you with capturing Bruges, be it to watch and learn under your command or as the commanding officer of your army; whatever suits you best.

Thierry then turns his head towards Duke de Champagne, a calm expression on his face and his eyes cold as ice.

Funny, Duke de Champagne, really funny.

Maybe one day I will give you the honor of being the first test subject of such a device. I'll try to make sure your body doesn't get reduced into a bloody pulp.

[OverKnight]

Hugues laughs.

I thought smashing tankards over the heads of unsuspecting men was more your style Chevalier.

[econ21]

Your Majesty, the Order will ride on Bruges in support of your attack. Some of us are mustering in Reims, but are in easy reach of Bruges. Whoever we elect as Captain will coordinate with you in the offensive.

[OOC: Tristan and the Order Captain should coordinate over attacking Bruges - simplest if the Order Captain just let's Tristan move our company, but could be done in other ways that they can work out IC or OOC.]