Capo di Tutti Capi III [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Jolt- Questionable, but not un-American
atheotes- Loyal
DJGingivitis- Loyal


Those are the results on communist activity that I have so far.

EDIT: Courtesy tally:


discovery1: 9 (Kommodus, Sasaki Kojiro, Beskar, YLC, Askthepizzaguy, Double A, Psychonaut, johnhughthom, slashandburn)
Askthepizzaguy: 6 (Shinseikhaan, Crazed Crabbit, Chaotix, Kagemusha, AggonyDuck, Rhyfelwyr)
Double A: 1 (Scottishranger)

Abstain: Tratorix, Xehh

[Reenk Roink]

disco isn't a bad choice actually. I don't know who Atpg's source is, but I got dirt on disco a long time ago, and he made his way on the suspect list.

I was expecting a runaway landslide for Atpg, but it seems we'll get a disco-Atpg tie or something really close.

To be honest, I'm not sure either of them are the best lynch. Both are marked by other families (I am of the opinion that both are some kind of actual scum affiliated with others). I was hoping we lynch Sasaki today. Who knows how far he's gone in making his family?

[TinCow]

A brief note on the kills: I think we've got 2 families killing. The yellow rose mafia is obvious. The other is the "kunai" mafia. It looks like they tried to kill Lord Winter last night, but failed because only 1 showed up. However, there's an interesting bit in that write-up. In re: to one of the thrown "kunai", the killer said:

“That was Curio’s, but it somehow didn’t get used in all the hustle and bustle.”

This indicates to me that the kunai mafia attacked GSC on Night 2, but Seamus forgot to include the signature. Interestingly, that kill also appeared to fail due to having only 1 attacker. Looks like the kunai mafia is disorganized and are having problems getting their order PMs in.

[Kommodus]

I don't think we should lynch ATPG... yet. We should at least wait for the autopsy results on Yaropolk and possibly CountArach.

I do not know if ATPG truly has a pro-town role but I'm nearly certain that he is not mafia. It is universally acknowledged that he and GH worked together to kill Yaropolk - but Seamus requires the mafia families to leave a "calling card" of some kind at the scene of their kills (i.e. the yellow rose). There was no such calling card at the scene of Yaropolk's death.

On the other hand we have discovery1, an admitted Luca. Exactly why would we not lynch him? Unless, of course, we have an even better suspect?

Vote: Double A

Until I hear otherwise, it definetly sounds like a Don to me.

Can I ask you to explain what you mean by this?

[TinCow]

Also, here's a motley mix of other detective results that were sent to me a little while ago. I trust this source a lot more than the last one. These were all produced on N1 and N2, though I don't know specifically when each result was produced.

Beskar=criminal
Sasaki=innocent
ichigo=questionable
atheotes=loyal
count arach=questionable
discovery1=criminal

Apparently the questionable/loyal results are related to the communism sub-plot. The source does not think that they are any indication of whether the target is mafia or not; for instance, a loyal person could also be a mafioso.

[johnhughthom]

disco isn't a bad choice actually. I don't know who Atpg's source is, but I got dirt on disco a long time ago, and he made his way on the suspect list.

This seems to be a common theme, a lot of people seem to be certain disco is scum, I know I am. Atpg on the other had is far from certain either way, if it wasn't for the scummy recent posting between him, Beskar and Double A I would be inclined to believe pizza has a pro-town role. Right now I would say I am 60-40 he is pro-town (probably CIA).

[Sasaki Kojiro]

On the other hand we have discovery1, an admitted Luca. Exactly why would we not lynch him? Unless, of course, we have an even better suspect?

Technically he didn't admit to it...

Vote: discovery1 I also have a source who has told me the same thing.

fos:slashandburn

Seems unlikely to me.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Also, here's a motley mix of other detective results that were sent to me a little while ago. I trust this source a lot more than the last one. These were all produced on N1 and N2, though I don't know specifically when each result was produced.



Apparently the questionable/loyal results are related to the communism sub-plot. The source does not think that they are any indication of whether the target is mafia or not; for instance, a loyal person could also be a mafioso.

If those are to be are to be believed then why is Besker so ardently defending ATPG?

[scottishranger]

I don't think we should lynch ATPG... yet. We should at least wait for the autopsy results on Yaropolk and possibly CountArach.

I do not know if ATPG truly has a pro-town role but I'm nearly certain that he is not mafia. It is universally acknowledged that he and GH worked together to kill Yaropolk - but Seamus requires the mafia families to leave a "calling card" of some kind at the scene of their kills (i.e. the yellow rose). There was no such calling card at the scene of Yaropolk's death.

On the other hand we have discovery1, an admitted Luca. Exactly why would we not lynch him? Unless, of course, we have an even better suspect?



Can I ask you to explain what you mean by this?

Sure.

Take a look at his survival of the recent hit against him. In it, it appears there is apparently only one savior, and it takes three townies to make a protection group. How could he have survived?(Unless it was a doctor, which Im willing to accept if its true). If it wasnt a doctor, then a Luca had to have saved him.

[Kagemusha]

Well the only problem i have lynching Disco is that the source is ATGP. How do we know that he is not just trying to save his own butt?

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Host's Tally (through jht's post at 10:36 Eastern)


1st place:

discovery1: 9 (pizza, Beskar, AA, jht, Kommo, Psycho, Sasaki, s&b, YLC)

2nd place:

askthepizzaguy: 6 (ducky, Chaotix, CR, Kage', Rhyf', 'khaan)

3rd place:

abstain: 2 (Tratorix, X2)

4th place:

Double A: 1 (scottish)



I'll try to keep up with changes, but it will be hit or miss for me to get back to things until tomorrow.

[johnhughthom]

If those are to be are to be believed then why is Besker so ardently defending ATPG?

Beskar has never denied being a wiseguy, I think a wiseguy who partakes in a mob killing comes up as guilty rather than criminal and Beskar has said he has defended the last three nights. It doesn't exactly prove his story, but it doesn't disprove it either. Though I do agree the level of defending from Beskar and Double A is suspicious.

[DisgruntledGoat]

I don't remember it ever coming up that he is a wise guy. I must of missed that. So basically we confirmed he is a wiseguy and obviously he is going to claim to be going straight.

[slashandburn]

Technically he didn't admit to it...



fos:slashandburn

Seems unlikely to me.

Perhaps I know things you don't because I am working with pro-towns instead of trying to become a mafioso.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Perhaps I know things you don't because I am working with pro-towns instead of trying to become a mafioso.

Haha, zing.

But don't you think it's odd that two investigators would have checked out disco and found he was a luca?

[Jolt]

Perhaps I know things you don't because I am working with pro-towns instead of trying to become a mafioso.

In any case, I can confirm my contacts have also pinned on discoLion, the Luca status.

Vote: Disco

[Andres]

Ugh, don't have much time, but I noticed Myrddraal died.

He was a detective. I had him investigated last night and the result on him was "innocent", so I think we can safely assume he was a pro-town investigator.

He shared his results with me the previous day; here you go:

N1:
A Very Super Market = Criminal
Shlin28 = Innocent

N2:
Khazzar = Criminal
Andres = Innocent

Vote : Khazaar

[LittleGrizzly]

Sorry limited time, quick post

Vote Disco

Willing to take ATPG's word until post mortems come back....

[Askthepizzaguy]

For those of you still concerned about me, the FBI investigation result is pending. It should fully reveal my role.

If I can get more than just my inner circle of associates to vouch for me, that means I either have a huge family or I am innocent. And those people vouching for me can easily be investigated.

[Cultured Drizzt fan]

Alright, back and ready for business! if anyone needs to leave then I will take over! Scimitars ready and sharpened!

[scotchedpommes]

Vote: discovery1

[gibsonsg91921]

Vote: Double A until you tell me how you were protected by an "armored car" and no visible protection group.

[Andres]

I feel like I'm being ignored. Did I miss something and were the investigation results from Myrddraal and Myrdd's role common knowledge for about 23 days?

I'd like to hear more from AVSM and Khazaar.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I feel like I'm being ignored. Did I miss something and were the investigation results from Myrddraal and Myrdd's role common knowledge for about 23 days?

I'd like to hear more from AVSM and Khazaar.

You may have missed a lot, but I believe I spoke those investigation results to TinCow to add to his list. The criminal results on both are not as high a priority as the apparent Luca result on discovery1, however, I don't see the point of wasting our ability to double lynch.

Either one would make a good candidate, but some people are still stuck on me as the second place candidate. I'd endorse AVSM especially for the double lynch, because he's been utterly unresponsive. But Khazaar is just as good.

[Khazaar]

I´ve been in a protectiongroup that defended someone. That person was never attacked, but I can say for myself that I haven´t tried to kill anyone, I´m also available for future protectiongroups ATPG asked for my support in a PM but never gave me an exact order on who to protect. I consider myself town and have a clean vest, feel free to lynch me.

[Andres]

I consider myself town and have a clean vest, feel free to lynch me.

What's your role? Wiseguy?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I´ve been in a protectiongroup that defended someone. That person was never attacked, but I can say for myself that I haven´t tried to kill anyone, I´m also available for future protectiongroups ATPG asked for my support in a PM but never gave me an exact order on who to protect. I consider myself town and have a clean vest, feel free to lynch me.

I need those people in your protection group to PM me then to verify your story.

If you're claiming wiseguy, we can put you somewhere and possibly use you, because we need volunteers. But if the protection group fails due to orders not matching, you have to go.

[discovery1]

On the other hand we have discovery1, an admitted Luca. Exactly why would we not lynch him? Unless, of course, we have an even better suspect?

Let me clarify my statement:

Uh huh, Askthepizzaguy is accusing me of this. Considering who he and Beskar were all over the place just before they fingered me. So no, I do not take his accusations all that seriously.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Let me clarify my statement:

Uh huh, Askthepizzaguy is accusing me of this. Considering who he and Beskar were all over the place just before they fingered me. So no, I do not take his accusations all that seriously.

I may be the messenger boy for these accusations, but I am not the source. Those who accused you are being investigated. One of them already has been proven innocent. Rest assured, one of you is mafia, and whichever one it is, will die. So if you are as innocent as you claim, the person who caused your downfall will soon perish.

[Beskar]

Though I do agree the level of defending from Beskar and Double A is suspicious.

A Mafia would not reveal the don, after a Wiseguy becomes a Made Gangsta, the point of no return, then the Don might be revealed to them.

If I am brutually honest, I want to do 4 successful protections. That role (which is a town one) sounds cool.