Will you get Tamiflu?

[caravel]

Well, it's fairly balmy here right now, not winter. Bear in mind, it is usually the old and mal-nourished that die; this outbreak has hit the young and middle-class. Against that backdrop 49 is significant.

In the past yes, not in modern times though. It's the elderly the very young and those that have underlying health problems that are the most vulnerable. Irrespective of class. The same goes for seasonal flu.

[Husar]

I'd probably contract swine flu while sitting in the waiting room among 14 seriously ill, coughing people waiting for my vaccine shot...

[LittleGrizzly]

Wouldn't you be slightly more at risk if you hardly ever get flu ?

Whereas Grizzy suffers flu at least about 4 times a year... so my immune system is trained and prepared for the situation!

If some mass vacination program starts I wouldn't avoid it, but as it is atm i wouldn't get tamiflu


If i had swineflu I probably would have tamiflu aslong as there were plenty of supplies of it... I wouldn't want to take a young kid or old person's tamiflu instead of them...

[lars573]

Ok, but you have a problem here: How many more people would have died if not for the vaccine in 1976? It's difficult to know, isn't it? One would have to go back to 1918.

And I think you'll find WW1 had more to do with the death rate for Spainish flu. Rather than how deadly it was.

[HoreTore]

So you wouldn't take part in the immunisation program that's going to be starting shortly. Once again, I ask, why not?

Hell no I won't.

The swine flu is just that - a flu. Actually, it's a mild form of flu.

I've already got the flu twice this year. I'll happily take it a third time before I inject myself with some barely tested hype drug.

Ok, but you have a problem here: How many more people would have died if not for the vaccine in 1976? It's difficult to know, isn't it? One would have to go back to 1918.

Yeah, about that flu in 1976... Which had 3 deaths caused by the flu itself, and 25 deaths caused by the vaccine...

[Beskar]

only need to worry about Swine Flu if you are a child, very old person, or physically weak. If not that, just enjoy a few days in bed and getting off work on sick pay.

Out of hundreds and thousands getting Tamiflu, only a couple actually have swine flu.

Plus, there is something more disturbing, misdiagnosing is that high, people are dying of other illnesses because they are getting pushed in the swine flu bandwagon.

[Motep]

No, I dont think I will. I dont really think I need to worry about it. If I die of the swine flu, then I made one hell of a mistake, but if I dont, than I shall ... well, continue living.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

In the past yes, not in modern times though. It's the elderly the very young and those that have underlying health problems that are the most vulnerable. Irrespective of class. The same goes for seasonal flu.

Except the deaths have not been among the very old, very young and very infirm.

Pregnant mothers and older children with Asthma are also seriously affected, as are others.

I'm not saying this is the end of the world, but winter has yet to arrive, and it will not be until December that we will know how this disease will spread compared to "regular" flu.

[Centurion1]

No one really builds up a resistance to the flu virus. It is really to do with exposure and certain physical conditions. I was just reading an article that said people with astham have a greater chance of contracting swine flu. any orgahs should get the vaccine, please.

Like it has been said the ones who really need the vaccine are the old, sick, and very young. Much like a ship sinking, the women and children first.

[caravel]

Except the deaths have not been among the very old, very young and very infirm.

Pregnant mothers and older children with Asthma are also seriously affected, as are others.

I'm not saying this is the end of the world, but winter has yet to arrive, and it will not be until December that we will know how this disease will spread compared to "regular" flu.

...those that have underlying health problems that are the most vulnerable. Irrespective of class. The same goes for seasonal flu.

I suppose pregnancy is not an "underlying health problem", but a pregnant women and her unborn child are still very vulnerable to illness. Asthma would count as a serious underlying health problem. A person can die from an asthma attack whether they get flu or not.

[Idaho]

I think I may have had swine flu already.

A GP friend of mine said they had done sample tests on lots of people right at the start of the outbreak, and that people with a very wide variation of symptoms were coming back as positive - from full on flu, to just a cold, to just a temperature.

I just got a temperature and was very tired for a couple of days. I got it from my son who picked it up from school - where there had been some conformed cases.

[Fragony]

Same, few weeks ago. My legs felt a bit weak and I have been a bit dizzy, didn't eat very much. Never have that, sometimes I feel bad for a day but I usually know why that is.

[Ronin]

I think I may have had swine flu already.

A GP friend of mine said they had done sample tests on lots of people right at the start of the outbreak, and that people with a very wide variation of symptoms were coming back as positive - from full on flu, to just a cold, to just a temperature.

I just got a temperature and was very tired for a couple of days. I got it from my son who picked it up from school - where there had been some conformed cases.

I had those sympthoms during a weekend about a month and a half ago...but at that time there where almost no cases of swine flu in Portugal so it seems unlikely that it would be that.

[Kralizec]

Now that you mention it, I woke up last sunday morning at 11.00 with a tremendous headache and nausea...

[AlexanderSextus]

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[ICantSpellDawg]

If you get the shots you make it less likely that others will get the flu. If not for yourself, then do it for others.

[HoreTore]

If you get the shots you make it less likely that others will get the flu. If not for yourself, then do it for others.

And risk dying from the vaccine?

[Motep]

Besides, if I get the vaccine, I'd miss out on my chance to be part of a global pandemic.

[caravel]

If you get the shots you make it less likely that others will get the flu. If not for yourself, then do it for others.

Well even if you achieve immunity, either naturally or through immunisation you can still be a carrier - so the immunisation won't really help in that regard.

This is a case of mass media hysteria. This is really no different to normal seasonal flu, what is making a difference to the average person is that the deaths are being reported constantly via mass media, whereas normal seasonal flu deaths or indeed winter morality in general, deaths on the roads or deaths due to other diseases etc do not attract this kind of media attention. In reality the media loves a good epidemic/pandemic scaremongering episode as it boosts sales of newpapers and TV advertising revenue - and it's companies like Hoffmann–La Roche Pharmaceuticals (Tamiflu) that are getting rich off the back of it all.

[drone]

Well even if you achieve immunity, either naturally or through immunisation you can still be a carrier - so the immunisation won't really help in that regard.

This is a case of mass media hysteria. This is really no different to normal seasonal flu, what is making a difference to the average person is that the deaths are being reported constantly via mass media, whereas normal seasonal flu deaths or indeed winter morality in general, deaths on the roads or deaths due to other diseases etc do not attract this kind of media attention. In reality the media loves a good epidemic/pandemic scaremongering episode as it boosts sales of newpapers and TV advertising revenue - and it's companies like Hoffmann–La Roche Pharmaceuticals (Tamiflu) that are getting rich off the back of it all.

Wasn't H5N1 supposed to pull a Spanish Flu on us a few years ago?

I'm more worried about canine influenza. There is an outbreak here on the east coast, the local shelters have shut temporarily in response. Can't have my team getting sick on me.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Well even if you achieve immunity, either naturally or through immunisation you can still be a carrier - so the immunisation won't really help in that regard.

This is a case of mass media hysteria. This is really no different to normal seasonal flu, what is making a difference to the average person is that the deaths are being reported constantly via mass media, whereas normal seasonal flu deaths or indeed winter morality in general, deaths on the roads or deaths due to other diseases etc do not attract this kind of media attention. In reality the media loves a good epidemic/pandemic scaremongering episode as it boosts sales of newpapers and TV advertising revenue - and it's companies like Hoffmann–La Roche Pharmaceuticals (Tamiflu) that are getting rich off the back of it all.

Except, over here we aren't in our flu season yet. As I said, wait until winter hits before declaring it all "hype".

[Husar]

Well even if you achieve immunity, either naturally or through immunisation you can still be a carrier - so the immunisation won't really help in that regard.

Not to forget that sitting in a doctor's waiting room with several other people, some of who may have swine flu already, is very likely to get you the disease in the first place.

[Centurion1]

^ hospitals do have a tendency to hand off diseases, which is very sadly ironic.

[HoreTore]

Not to forget that sitting in a doctor's waiting room with several other people, some of who may have swine flu already, is very likely to get you the disease in the first place.

....Which is why you won't be able to see a doctor anymore if you have swine flu symptoms...

[Husar]

....Which is why you won't be able to see a doctor anymore if you have swine flu symptoms...

So I'll just be left to die on the street or will they bind my eyes?

[rory_20_uk]

It's called a telephone. Rather useful in these cases.

[Riedquat]

So I'll just be left to die on the street or will they bind my eyes?

Exactly, better wait a few days and die in your own. People, I really expect the flu doesn't hit your country as it did with mine. Prior I had the same idea about, just another flu, but it isn't. A lot of people died here, because they didn't believed the hype, I didn't and I was wrong.

[Ronin]

So I'll just be left to die on the street or will they bind my eyes?

Yes..this is the first state of Obama's death panels plan.

[Husar]

It's called a telephone. Rather useful in these cases.

They do vaccinations via telephone now?

[drone]

They do vaccinations via telephone now?

There's an app for that.