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    Βασιλευς και Αυτοκρατωρ Αρχης Member Centurio Nixalsverdrus's Avatar
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    Default Re: OT - The Napoleonic EB (Sort of)

    Well, two questions: What is a grognard, and where's Prussia?

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    To answer your questions, a "grognard" is:

    Grognard is French for "grumbler".[1] It is not necessarily pejorative and is sometimes used as a compliment. Historically it meant a soldier in Napoleon's army, particularly a member of the Old Guard.[2]

    "Grognard" came to mean a veteran wargamer in the early 1970s.[3] It was first used by John Young, at that time an employee of SPI, and subsequently popularised by Strategy & Tactics magazine.

    From wargaming, the term moved to role-playing games where it was used to mean someone who preferred older-than-current editions of a game (for example, a person who stayed with first edition Dungeons & Dragons even after the second or third editions were released).

    Nowadays, in colloquial usage, it refers to someone who has been involved in a hobby or pastime for a long period, particularly those involved in earlier phases of a now-popular hobby. It is still most often used with reference to wargames or role-playing games. It is primarily used as a pejorative term for gamers who refuse to try newer versions of a game, which they often see as an unwelcome rehash of the old game.
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    Third, that's a question which is best answered in their own forums. In my experience, everything from the order of battle to the specific command and individual unit intricacies shows variations between factions to represent their differences and strive for historical accuracy (they're not just carbon copies of one and another unlike in ETW), so I would not be surprised that such factions are absent due to the lack of time to implement them satisfactorily.

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    Default Re: OT - The Napoleonic EB (Sort of)

    Thank you for the answer.

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    Default Re: OT - The Napoleonic EB (Sort of)

    Quote Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus View Post
    Well, two questions: What is a grognard, and where's Prussia?
    You're German!
    And you don't know where Prussia is...shame...shame.

    Prussia at it's largest extent:
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    And East Prussia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    You're German!
    And you don't know where Prussia is...shame...shame.
    I guess he asked it, because it seems the developers left it out, not because he didn't know where it is. Or I missunderstood something.
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    Default Re: OT - The Napoleonic EB (Sort of)

    Quote Originally Posted by Apázlinemjó View Post
    I guess he asked it, because it seems the developers left it out, not because he didn't know where it is. Or I missunderstood something.
    I think I misunderstood it then
    Sorry CN
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    Default Re: OT - The Napoleonic EB (Sort of)

    1. "Histwar"? "Let's make HistWar"? Silly name, tbh.
    2. Wherefore art thou, o Prussia?
    3. Graphics... Not that hot. Too dim lighting in sc's I checked, for one.


    However, it's always good to have independent (?) games being published. If it's even anywhere near-ish to E:TW for half the price, say, CA's gonna have to make better games, to the benefit of all.
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    Well the graphics are not the forte, but given it's a niche game, it's not a problem at all. Command complexity is much higher than in ETW, where you just move around men like toys - Realistic factors such as visibility and rain might hamper musket and artillery fire, and the level of micromanagement is also decisively cut since your orders are issued more broadly with a set of specific parameters, like "should heavy cavalry pursue routers or not?", which dispenses with the need of having to order units, and do so individually to boot since RTW units tend to always go for the wrong unit in the wrong place when I group attack with them.

    That and a number of other features, including a message delay which simulates the time that it would take to runners and gallopers to issue orders to all troops.
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    Default Re: OT - The Napoleonic EB (Sort of)

    I know quite good where and what about Prussia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    I think I misunderstood it then
    Sorry CN
    Nevermind.

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    10 years and no prussia

    but it could become quite an amazing game if you can eventually insert the sweadish and the polish commonwealth and the ottoman empire and ofc the zwei reich wich could make the game expandable from 1620 (??) till 1850(?) wich ofc one could simulate the great slavic liberation (or the turkish russian wars both in the balkans and the caucasus) the sweadish against the slavs (poland and russia ) the 7 years war (you would need to include the danish i believe)

    alot of potencial but making a napoleonic game and not including the prussians if folly for a strategy game but i´m sure it will be a great tactical game and as people mentioned might make ca tremble a bit to make them work a bit harder on that stupid ai both on the strategy map the diplomatic fields and the batle map

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    Default Re: OT - The Napoleonic EB (Sort of)

    Watch this video at 1:33.

    "Play as any of 15 different Major - Minor and city state military powers including France - Russia - Austria - Wurtemburg - Saxony, Sweden, Poland, Italy, Naples..."

    Check out this thread from their forums as well.
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