Biblical Wars?

**IrishHitman** · 08-21-2009, 00:02

Originally Posted by General Aetius

Wrong. here are a few examples where the Bible's recordings were correct:

The pool of Siloam, which was always believed to not exist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pool_of_Siloam

Nineveh. Archaeologist originally thought that the Bible had exaggerated Nineveh's size. But excavations show that Nineveh could easily support a population of 100,000-150,000.

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineveh

The Hittites were once thought to be a Biblical legend, until their capital and records were discovered at Bogazkoy, Turkey.

It was once claimed there was no Assyrian king named Sargon as recorded in Isaiah 20:1, because this name was not known in any other record. Then, Sargon's palace was discovered in Khorsabad, Iraq. The very event mentioned in Isaiah 20, his capture of Ashdod, was recorded on the palace walls. What is more, fragments of a stela memorializing the victory were found at Ashdod itself.

General Aetius

PAST tense Aetius.

The fact historians didn't believe the Bible before other sources became available is proof that they see it as vastly unreliable.

For instance, it claimed Babylon was destroyed, and that it would never again exist.
This was LONG before Alexander happened to march into the city that was supposedly never to exist again....

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 08-21-2009, 04:07

Originally Posted by IrishHitman

PAST tense Aetius.

The fact historians didn't believe the Bible before other sources became available is proof that they see it as vastly unreliable.

For instance, it claimed Babylon was destroyed, and that it would never again exist.
This was LONG before Alexander happened to march into the city that was supposedly never to exist again....

Actually, a lot of historians did believe it; they just didn't believe all of it. This is all tied in with the Enlightenment.

Anyway, Babylon never did rise again, and was totally subdued by the Persians. Alexander marched into a Persian city, not a Babylonian one. In fact, those preophecies are so accurate they are often considered to be falsified.

**antisocialmunky** · 08-21-2009, 04:49

Eh, I didn't expect that from a EB member. You guys are usually pretty skeptical about everything(rightly so if you're going to go by the sparse primary source and subjective secondary sources).

**Megas Methuselah** · 08-21-2009, 06:36

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

Eh, I didn't expect that from a EB member. You guys are usually pretty skeptical about everything(rightly so if you're going to go by the sparse primary source and subjective secondary sources).

Hey, what about me? I support you too, bro. The Bible (at least, much of the Old Testament) could be taken as seriously as one might take the Illiad: a history book buried under a layer of... exaggerations.

IrishHitman is only being bitter here, and letting anger lead him. It is often best to be led by a clear and sober mind.

**Ludens** · 08-21-2009, 18:33

Do not add more fuel to the fire, please.

Keep it civil, and stay respectful of another's opinion.

**IrishHitman** · 08-21-2009, 21:48

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Actually, a lot of historians did believe it; they just didn't believe all of it. This is all tied in with the Enlightenment.

Anyway, Babylon never did rise again, and was totally subdued by the Persians. Alexander marched into a Persian city, not a Babylonian one. In fact, those preophecies are so accurate they are often considered to be falsified.

The Scripture describes the city never again being POPULATED, never mind being prominent...

**Moros** · 08-21-2009, 23:27

Look everybody knows the bible isn't historiography. However that doesn't mean it doesn't have interesting things to tell a historian.

**antisocialmunky** · 08-21-2009, 23:35

Well, it was a slow decline that lasted for the better part of half a millenium until the priests of Bel that were still chillin out there left because it kept getting run over in invasions in the 1st century CE.

No one has been inhabiting it as a city since then except for that US Military base that's slowly destroying the ruins.

**vartan** · 08-25-2009, 05:14

Originally Posted by antisocialmunky

No one has been inhabiting it as a city since then except for that US Military base that's slowly destroying the ruins.

That's too bad, but sure explains the outrage I hear so closely!

**thecellarlife** · 09-08-2009, 00:35

Wow, did not expect so many comments, and for this to degrade into an argument between (some of) you guys. The bible does have a place in history, and that is why I wished to present the idea of that time period used with this game. I think you'd all enjoy it if the proper work was done to portray it as accurately as possible. Unfortunately I am unable to make the mod, but if some of you are willing to try, I'd give as much help as I could.

If you want to try, start gathering the history and maybe someone will code it. Thanks for the responses, it seems like this mod has more interest than I first thought.

**Andronikos** · 09-09-2009, 15:09

I think it would be an interesting submod. There are other more reliable sources about that era and those could be used. But it would require a team of researchers, modellers, script writers...

BTW, I have read a book about about Hittites recently and the first people who discovered them took info from the Bible which told about "Heteans" (not sure about English version, original is Hittim). I wouldn't underestimate any religious book or mythology.