Police abuses

**Crazed Rabbit** · 08-21-2009, 18:05

A cop lies his pants off - no, wait, he's unlikely to be punished so he's not lying anything off. Anyways, a cop lies strenuously about a man he pulled over who was chewing breath mints. The cop thought the mints the driver was chewing was crack. The cop says his field test kit returned a positive, which is possible, as those things are terribly unreliable. So he arrested the guy and had him put into jail.

But the cop also said that he say the guy buying crack and that the driver admitted he bought drugs. this jives with the fact that three months after the arrest the substance came back from the lab as certified non-crack.

But during that time the driver couldn't make bail and had to stay in jail, losing his apartment, his job, and his car, which the police impounded and sold. I wonder if the cop feels bad about that. Since he lied so much, I'm guessing that sort of thing doesn't phase him.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

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**Zim** · 08-22-2009, 00:36

Hmmm...comment on the first page. He may have a good lawsuit if the officer lied, but it looks like it was his lack of driving ability that landed him in jail for months and "ruined" his life.

Don't know how they do such things in Florida but you'd have to work pretty hard here to rack up driving offenses so as to get your license suspended 5 years.

"Also, Mr MAy forgot to mention that he sat in jail for three months because the bond for Habitual traffic violator back then was 10k, and he could not get bonded out. Prisoners are not held in jail until test results come back, May just simply could not get bonded out. The police do not auction off cars towed from arrests, the tow company does that. And if you wondering Habitual traffic violator means his driving record was so bad, that his license is suspended for 5 years. Consequently, dirtbags are always looking for a free lunch"

Also, in the spirit of the thread, another link of officers acting inappropriately (and pretty stupidly, I might add).

http://news.aol.com/article/midland-...es-in%2F632950

Interestingly, that story above was deemed important enough to make the first page of the news site I check, but I don't remember seeing this one below. Then again, it's just old enough that I may have forgotten or missed it.

http://news.aol.com/article/2-okla-s...newsaol_inpage

**Mooks** · 08-23-2009, 01:00

Originally Posted by Zim

Hmmm...comment on the first page. He may have a good lawsuit if the officer lied, but it looks like it was his lack of driving ability that landed him in jail for months and "ruined" his life.

Don't know how they do such things in Florida but you'd have to work pretty hard here to rack up driving offenses so as to get your license suspended 5 years.

"Also, Mr MAy forgot to mention that he sat in jail for three months because the bond for Habitual traffic violator back then was 10k, and he could not get bonded out. Prisoners are not held in jail until test results come back, May just simply could not get bonded out. The police do not auction off cars towed from arrests, the tow company does that. And if you wondering Habitual traffic violator means his driving record was so bad, that his license is suspended for 5 years. Consequently, dirtbags are always looking for a free lunch"

Also, in the spirit of the thread, another link of officers acting inappropriately (and pretty stupidly, I might add).

http://news.aol.com/article/midland-...es-in%2F632950

Interestingly, that story above was deemed important enough to make the first page of the news site I check, but I don't remember seeing this one below. Then again, it's just old enough that I may have forgotten or missed it.

http://news.aol.com/article/2-okla-s...newsaol_inpage

Iv gotta say, those 2 links were nowhere near the "spirit of the thread". Iv doubt you read anything but maybe the last page.

The first link; a hot chick on a car posing with a officer's m4 (I think its a m4, not sure). Big deal, victimless crime and noone really cares.

2nd one, murder of 2 cops by a guy. Sure, its bad. But nowhere near what this topic has been about.

**Zim** · 08-23-2009, 08:11

I've read the thread from the very first post. I especially enjoyed the bit about fascism pills.

I find the thread on the whole to be a rather interesting mix of some apparently real and shocking abuses of power by law enforcement as well as stories that seem either weak on fact checking or deliberately misrepresenting events.

I posted mainly to mention that a recent link might (I reserve judgment at the moment) be the latter rather than the former. The links I posted were done more on a whim. The former because I thought it was funny (while also being an abuse of the public trust by officers), and the latter because I never saw it on the front page of my news link while the former was, and that made me sad.

The links are more closely related to the topic of the thread than one would think from their first glance, however. In the first we have officers in a marked car stopping at a restaurant that appears to be similar to Hooters (something that could result in discipline in and of itself due to the marked car), drinking "three to five beers" each, and then handing a waitress a duty weapon that may have been loaded (unless they bothered to empty the magazine beforehand) to pose for a picture.

At the very least it's a worse abuse than the supposed one in the link posted earlier where a cop was beat in the head with a flashlight and tased the person in response. At the most it's indicative of the attitude some officers get that they can do anything they want and don't have standards to live up to due to their oath, the same attitude that can lead to further and more severe abuses.

The second link provides a contrast to the almost constantly negative posts in the thread. Reading a thread devoted to one side of a certain subject (in this case, polic abuses) it can be easy to only see that side. It doesn't hurt to remember that these are people who put their lives in danger to keep people safe, and from time to time they pay the ultimate price as a result of fulfilling their duties.

It also helps to show part of the reason cops can seem to be so paranoid or overreact in the name of safety, a subject that has been brought up in the thread before. The job is dangerous. Sometimes we have some idea ahead of time like this particular story. Sometimes it turns out to be the guy an officer pulls over for not having tail lights who gets out of the car and starts shooting (or does so halfway through what seemed a routine encounter).

Originally Posted by Mooks

Iv gotta say, those 2 links were nowhere near the "spirit of the thread". Iv doubt you read anything but maybe the last page.

The first link; a hot chick on a car posing with a officer's m4 (I think its a m4, not sure). Big deal, victimless crime and noone really cares.

2nd one, murder of 2 cops by a guy. Sure, its bad. But nowhere near what this topic has been about.

**InsaneApache** · 08-29-2009, 09:34

A blind man who complained to police about cars parking on a pavement was arrested when he threatened to let down the vehicles' tyres.

Daniel Duckfield, from Narberth, Pembrokeshire, said he and his guide dog had to walk in the road when paths were blocked by illegally-parked cars.

He has complained about being cautioned and put in a cell after his arrest.

Dyfed-Powys Police said it was investigating Mr Duckfield's complaints.

Mr Duckfield, who became blind in December 1999, claimed police were not doing enough to tackle motorists parking illegally on pavements near his home.

He said he had repeatedly complained to officers about cars blocking his path when he went out of his house, forcing him and his guide dog to walk on a main road.

Last week, after phoning officers and feeling he was getting no help, he went a step further.

He said: "I said all right, if you're not going to do anything I'll do something myself, I'll let the tyres down and I'll write 'no parking' on the windscreen.

"I went to the door [and] locked the door. By the time I got 50 yards down my street there was a policeman running towards me.

"He told me he was going to arrest me because I had threatened to let tyres down and threatened to write on windscreens."

Mr Duckfield said he was taken to a police station and held in a cell before being cautioned.

He said: "I thought it was absolutely disgusting. I came back here and I sat down and I almost cried but I thought, no, the temper took over me."

Mr Duckfield said the arrest meant he would no longer be asked to visit schools with his guide dog.

Dyfed-Powys Police said the force had held a crackdown on illegal parking in Narberth last month.

A spokesperson added: "It is unfortunate Mr Duckfield decided to take matters into his own hands on this occasion."

The spokesperson added Mr Duckfield's complaints would be fully investigated.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_west/8225778.stm

What a shower of bastards.

**Zim** · 08-30-2009, 21:30

It seems kind of overboard to stick him in a cell for for even a short period for what was most likely just venting. That said, here where I live you could theoretically arrest someone for making a threat like that as opposed to the people committing the parking violations (ticket at most), even though it would seem to show very bad judgment from the info in the article. Apparently that also holds true in the part of Wales this incident took place in.

What is "parking on a pavement "? Parking on the sidewalk?

The local police department here does crackdowns on minor traffic and parking violations periodically and all they get for it are tons of complaints (and likely newspaper articles about how they write tickets just to create revenue over petty things). Then if they relax at all or focus more on crimes they get almost as many complaints (and likely newspaper articles about how they don't care about people's safety because they aren't writing tickets for those same "petty" things).

Sometimes I'm glad my department is so overstretched that the volunteers handle stuff like parking tickets.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 09-03-2009, 21:15

In Georgia, cops murder a Pastor who wasn't even the target of their drug investigation, but had dropped off a woman suspected of using drugs beforehand. They decide to 'question' him by waiting until he went into a gas station to use the ATM to withdraw money, then speed up to him in a black unmarked pickup as he comes out, then jump out with guns drawn in plain cloths. Naturally, he gets scared at seeing gunmen approaching him, so he backs up quickly, hitting one officer. As he drives away they shoot at him. He died a little while later from bullet wounds. The cops claimed they yelled "Police" which, of course, no criminal is physically able to do. And they did all this shooting right in the center of a gas station - you know, surrounded by huge amounts of explosive liquid.

He's survived by his pregnant wife.

Video here.

They could have avoiding murdering him if they had simply driven up calmly, parked, gotten out without guns in their hands and shown him their badges. But then they couldn't pretend to be cool badasses. And what's a few dead innocents compared to that?

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**Crazed Rabbit** · 09-04-2009, 18:18

JERICHO, Ark. – It was just too much, having to return to court twice on the same day to contest yet another traffic ticket, and Fire Chief Don Payne didn't hesitate to tell the judge what he thought of the police and their speed traps.

The response from cops? They shot him. Right there in court.
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It was anger over traffic tickets that brought Payne to city hall last week, said his lawyer, Randy Fishman. After Payne failed to get a traffic ticket dismissed on Aug. 27, police gave Payne or his son another ticket that day. Payne, 39, returned to court to vent his anger to Judge Tonya Alexander, Fishman said.

It's unclear exactly what happened next, but Martin said an argument between Payne and the seven police officers who attended the hearing apparently escalated to a scuffle, ending when an officer shot Payne from behind.

Doctors in Memphis, Tenn., removed a .40-caliber bullet from Payne's hip bone, Martin said. Another officer suffered a grazing wound to his finger from the bullet.

Martin declined to name the officer who shot Payne. It's unclear if the officer has been disciplined.

Prosecutor Lindsey Fairley said Thursday that he didn't plan to file any felony charges against the officer or Payne. Fairley, reached at his home, said Payne could face a misdemeanor charge stemming from the scuffle, but that would be up to the city's judge. He said he didn't remember the name of the officer who fired the shot.

So, you shoot an unarmed man in the back and he's the only one even possibly facing charges?

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**Crazed Rabbit** · 09-18-2009, 17:30

Earlier in this thread, a video was posted of a cop interrogating a woman. The cop proceeded to turn the camera off, and when it came back on, the woman was lying on the floor with a pool of blood around her face. (Disturbing picture!)

The cop was fired, for not administering first aid, but not prosecuted. And guess what?

He's back on the job!
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/artic...WS03/908130319

A Shreveport police officer who was fired for violating departmental policy while arresting Angela Garbarino on Nov. 17, 2007, has been reinstated.
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The Shreveport Municipal Fire and Police Civil Service Board's seven members made the ruling Wednesday in the case known nationally for video footage of the handcuffed woman lying in a pool of her blood in a police interrogation room.

The ruling means Wiley Willis can return to duty once his in-service and firearm requirements are met.

"He'll get a year and a half of back pay, benefits, retirement, everything," said Michael Carter, president of the Shreveport police officers union. And as far as he knows, Carter added, Willis intends to continue working for the Shreveport Police Department.

The Civil Service Board ruled that Willis' rights, under the Police Officer Bill of Rights, were violated because an expert failed to record a polygraph examination Willis took as part of the Police Department's investigation into Garbarino's injuries, including a broken nose.

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**Vladimir** · 08-24-2009, 17:04

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

A cop lies his pants off - no, wait, he's unlikely to be punished so he's not lying anything off. Anyways, a cop lies strenuously about a man he pulled over who was chewing breath mints. The cop thought the mints the driver was chewing was crack. The cop says his field test kit returned a positive, which is possible, as those things are terribly unreliable. So he arrested the guy and had him put into jail.

But the cop also said that he say the guy buying crack and that the driver admitted he bought drugs. this jives with the fact that three months after the arrest the substance came back from the lab as certified non-crack.

But during that time the driver couldn't make bail and had to stay in jail, losing his apartment, his job, and his car, which the police impounded and sold. I wonder if the cop feels bad about that. Since he lied so much, I'm guessing that sort of thing doesn't phase him.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

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*audible sigh*

Clearly he's lying. He has a badge; unlike the poor, innocent victim. Let's just ignore the results of the initial drug test. The cop in question likely has a video of him buying "teh crank."

**Xiahou** · 08-24-2009, 20:03

Originally Posted by Vladimir

*audible sigh*

Clearly he's lying. He has a badge; unlike the poor, innocent victim. Let's just ignore the results of the initial drug test. The cop in question likely has a video of him buying "teh crank."

Well, for what it's worth, a little further reading indicated the cop in question no longer works on the force and the victims attorney can't find him to serve him notice of the pending lawsuit.

May’s attorney said a federal civil suit was filed three months ago against the city. They are looking for Rice, to serve him a summons.

A police spokeswoman said any comments on lawsuits have to come from the city attorney, but confirmed that Officer Eric Rice no longer works for the Kissimmee Police Department.

linky

I'd hate to jump to conclusions, but that doesn't sound very good for the officer in question....

**Crazed Rabbit** · 08-24-2009, 20:44

Originally Posted by Vladimir

*audible sigh*

Clearly he's lying. He has a badge; unlike the poor, innocent victim. Let's just ignore the results of the initial drug test. The cop in question likely has a video of him buying "teh crank."

He said he saw the driver buying crack and admitting he had crack. Considering all he had was breath mints, I find that hard to believe.

I may have been quite wrong about him not being punished, which would be refreshing.

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