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    Let me try to sort out "Greek colonies" and what that meant.

    First colonization was when the Dorians invaded, and many peoples left from mainland Greece to establish colonies in the opposite Anatolian coast.

    The colonization of the Mediterranean coast prior to the Peloponnesean war is reffered to "2nd Colonization" period.

    The colonization of the vast fragmented Empire that Megas Alexandros bequeathed to us, from the Red Sea to Alexandreia Oxeiane, to Patalene in the mouth of Indus river, is refered to as the "3rd colonization". It started during the campaign of Alexandros and ended around 200 BCE, with the possible exception of the new cities founded by the IndoGreeks in present day Punjab and up to "Mathura ton Theon" (Mathura of the Gods) in India which was their largest continuous territorial expansion, during the reign of King Menadros.

    This is the most basic explanation of the 3 greek colonizing periods I can give. Anything more and my answer would fill pages.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keravnos View Post
    ... the "3rd colonization"...started during the campaign of Alexandros and ended around 200 BCE, ...
    These were principly settlements for klerouchs on one hand, or else retired soldiers? Which is somewhat consistent with Roman colonies in the EB period.

    The earlier (first/second waves in your analysis) waves of colonies were fully developed political entities tied by economics and tradition to a home polis. The later ones had a secondary (if any) civic role: their chief role was military service to a monarchy.

    The great exceptions were the first wave of Alexandros' cities (Alexandria in Egypt, Antioch, Seleucia etc) which were founded in hubris and served as world-changing vessels and conduits of Greek culture, but I guess they still lacked a more than local political life of their own (distinct from their associated ruling dynasty). Anyway they fall just before the EB period.

    So could the Hellenistic states have something like the Roman colonies? Allowing certain units to be recruited, although with less of a political effect? Or reinforcing Monmarchy rather than city-statehood?
    Last edited by Cyclops; 09-02-2009 at 01:44.
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