Finally got KOTOR

[Tratorix]

They are remedying that.
http://www.team-gizka.org/index.html
If you haven't seen it yet, then check this it. It's still not released, but when it will be, I think it'll make KOTOR 2 better than KOTOR.
They're putting in a lot of stuff cut off from the original release of the game and polishing the whole thing.

I wouldn't get your hopes up too high about this, that mod has been stuck at about 95% completion for the last couple of years.

[Jolt]

Two things that are incredibly stupid in all SW games (KOTOR included) is:

1. Ordinary blades can parry Jedi Lightsabers. If anything a Jedi Lightsaber would cut through a steel blade.
2. How the hell can Jedi's even fight for several minutes mandalorians or Spiders or whatever? Heck in the movies they plow through armies easily enough. Though in the games you have to give several blows before a soldier or animal dies. -_-'

(Yes, I'm aware if they the jedis as powerful as in the movies, they would be way overpowered over the rest of the enemies, but hey, that's what being a jedi is all about.)

[Monk]

I wouldn't get your hopes up too high about this, that mod has been stuck at about 95% completion for the last couple of years.

There's a couple of content mods, one I am following is planned for release this month. So we'll see.

edi: Link or it isn't happening: http://www.deadlystream.com/forumdisplay.php?f=123

Would have linked earlier but I wasn't at home.

[Tratorix]

Two things that are incredibly stupid in all SW games (KOTOR included) is:

1. Ordinary blades can parry Jedi Lightsabers. If anything a Jedi Lightsaber would cut through a steel blade.
2. How the hell can Jedi's even fight for several minutes mandalorians or Spiders or whatever? Heck in the movies they plow through armies easily enough. Though in the games you have to give several blows before a soldier or animal dies. -_-'

(Yes, I'm aware if they the jedis as powerful as in the movies, they would be way overpowered over the rest of the enemies, but hey, that's what being a jedi is all about.)

They actually explain in the game that all regular swords are made using a ``cortosis weave`` which is supposed to be strong enough to stand up to a lightsaber. It`s not a great in game explanation, but they at least try.

[Azathoth]

It's a perfectly fine explanation.

And the solution to a buggy KOTOR or KOTOR 2 is to just get them for the Xbox.

[Tratorix]

It's a perfectly fine explanation.

And the solution to a buggy KOTOR or KOTOR 2 is to just get them for the Xbox.

KOTOR 2 is still fairly buggy on xbox. My main problem with two wasn't the bugs, but the obviously cut content and the way it retconned every choice you made in the first game away in the first hour.

[Jolt]

They actually explain in the game that all regular swords are made using a ``cortosis weave`` which is supposed to be strong enough to stand up to a lightsaber. It`s not a great in game explanation, but they at least try.

Provided he can do this (5:46) to a steel (Steel? Or something even more durable?) blast door of several inches of thickness in such a short time notice, I can't see how a thin layer of metal as a sword can be gigantically resistent to a lightsaber. >__> Also, those scenes show perfectly enough how two Jedi's dispose of dozens of enemies in 10 or so seconds, while in Kotor you to kill 4 enemies, you take some minute of fighting and parrying. >__<

[Beskar]

They are remedying that.
http://www.team-gizka.org/index.html
If you haven't seen it yet, then check this it. It's still not released, but when it will be, I think it'll make KOTOR 2 better than KOTOR.
They're putting in a lot of stuff cut off from the original release of the game and polishing the whole thing.

That is very out of date. It hasn't been touched for over two years or so.

[Monk]

Provided he can do this (5:46) to a steel (Steel? Or something even more durable?) blast door of several inches of thickness in such a short time notice, I can't see how a thin layer of metal as a sword can be gigantically resistent to a lightsaber. >__> Also, those scenes show perfectly enough how two Jedi's dispose of dozens of enemies in 10 or so seconds, while in Kotor you to kill 4 enemies, you take some minute of fighting and parrying. >__<

Cortosis is an element in the SW universe that is so strong it's able to withstand the incredible force of a lightsaber. I first remember it mentioned in the Jedi Outcast games. The reason everything isn't made out of cortosis is that it's "rare".

Doesn't mean it's believable, but hey, at least Bioware didn't make it up on the spot. It's a well established silly thing.

[Tratorix]

Provided he can do this (5:46) to a steel (Steel? Or something even more durable?) blast door of several inches of thickness in such a short time notice, I can't see how a thin layer of metal as a sword can be gigantically resistent to a lightsaber. >__> Also, those scenes show perfectly enough how two Jedi's dispose of dozens of enemies in 10 or so seconds, while in Kotor you to kill 4 enemies, you take some minute of fighting and parrying. >__<

As Monk said, cortosis makes sense in the contaxt of the game. Besides, by the end of the game you hack up enemies in no time at all. It only takes time if you don't use any force powers or abilities and just stick with basic attacks. Also, remember that you don't start the game as a fully trained Jedi.

[Mailman653]

I've been glued to the game since I bought it two days ago and I've barely started to get into the thick of things, best 9.99 I've spent so far.

[Krauser]

The nvidia gforce 9 series does not play well with KOTOR, more specifically the drivers for it are so "advanced" that the game cannot recognize them. So whenever i tried to play the game I couldn't get it to work for more than 2 min. A little research on the net revealed I would likely have to roll the drivers back four years just to get it to work..

I got it to work with Geforce 9800GT. It still crashes occasionally. I found a site with other people having trouble. The two things I did was add a line to the ini to disable vertex buffer stuff. I then replaced one of the DLLs with a fan-made one. Everything seems to work after that except occasional crashes (display driver has stopped working). They recommended also installed Directx 9 next to Directx 10, but crashes have gone down enough I don't feel like doing that now.

There's also a mod that let's you use widescreen resolutions, but I don't use it. I like to use windowed mode. Easier to get out of crashes.

I have plenty of games that don't recognize the video driver but they still work somehow.

[Mailman653]

I have a 9400 and I haven't had a single crash yet, I've even alt-tab several times and haven't had any problems.

[Monk]

I'm on a 9600 GT and can't get beyond the first 2 minutes of gameplay before a crash. Mid-way through the Endar Spire to be exact, it always seems to kill it.

I got it to work with Geforce 9800GT. It still crashes occasionally. I found a site with other people having trouble. The two things I did was add a line to the ini to disable vertex buffer stuff. I then replaced one of the DLLs with a fan-made one. Everything seems to work after that except occasional crashes (display driver has stopped working). They recommended also installed Directx 9 next to Directx 10, but crashes have gone down enough I don't feel like doing that now.

There's also a mod that let's you use widescreen resolutions, but I don't use it. I like to use windowed mode. Easier to get out of crashes.

I have plenty of games that don't recognize the video driver but they still work somehow.

You wouldn't happen to have links where I could find all this, by chance?

Nevermind, found the DLL through the official technical support forums and the disable vertex buffer line a little later. Working much better now!

[a completely inoffensive name]

KOTOR 1 and 2 were epic. KOTOR 1 had a good story that did have a unforeseen twist, KOTOR 2 had an overall more epic story though that if it wasn't for the game being rushed would have topped KOTOR 1 in every way.

People bagging on the graphics need to STFU and remember the games are 6 and 5 years old respectively.

If BioWare instead of making this MMO (TOR) had instead made a proper extension of KOTOR 1 and 2 (KOTOR 3) to make an awesome trilogy with the kind of innovation and graphical improvements they created and built upon with Mass Effect 1 (and soon 2) I guarantee it would be hailed as the best RPG of the decade. This IP has that much potential. Too bad KOTOR 1 and 2 were completely covered over with this MMO 300 years in the future, revealing everything that you did was all a moot point.

[KarlXII]

Certainly the best Star wars game I played since the first dark forces, it really has this same special star-wars mood that brings a tear to my eye because it makes me feel like I did when I was a kid playing with Star-wars dolls

They're not dolls. They're action figures.

[Azathoth]

People bagging on the graphics need to STFU and remember the games are 6 and 5 years old respectively.

I remember KOTOR's prerendered cutscenes looked pretty good back in 03.

I have no problems with their decision to make KOTOR 3 an MMO (a la Star Wars Galaxies? I wonder if anyone still plays that), but I make a rule of not playing MMO's (other than CSS) so I am a bit disappointed.

[pevergreen]

CS:S is a MMO?

I tend to lump MMO's as the category that in reality is MMORPG. Otherwise you start calling things like Battlefield a MMO, when its just an FPS.

[Azathoth]

It is an MMO. MMO means Massively Multiplayer Online. Any game that is designed for online play only is an MMO, whether it's an MMOFPS or an MMORPG or a space sim MMO.

[Monk]

It is an MMO. MMO means Massively Multiplayer Online. Any game that is designed for online play only is an MMO, whether it's an MMOFPS or an MMORPG or a space sim MMO.

CS typically is not considered an MMO despite being primarily online oriented. While there really isn't a set rule as to the definition, MMOs are generally considered games run on company owned servers, supporting thousands of people per server, and boast a persistent world.

A good example of an MMO that is also an FPS is Planetside.

[Azathoth]

I'll make sure to look it up on Wikipedia sometime.

[Mailman653]

Has anyone tried that Revenge of Solomon mod? I installed it yesterday but it will be a while in my current game before I reach the part of the game where this user made expansion begins.