Is EB2 the same as EB1?

**Megas Methuselah** · 09-30-2009, 06:02

Originally Posted by Cyclops

Thats great news about the AI, Ludens.

Here in sunny Australia there is a feeling of spring in the air, a whiff of pollen and anti-hystamines and something more...

...I have a feeling in my bones EB2 is not far away.

Well, here in the Canadian prairies, the wind is beating the life out of us and the gloomy clouds promise snow. I'm setting in for a long, cold winter and a long, hard wait.

**Cyclops** · 09-30-2009, 06:18

Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

Well, here in the Canadian prairies, the wind is beating the life out of us and the gloomy clouds promise snow. I'm setting in for a long, cold winter and a long, hard wait.

An image springs to my mind of Megas Methuselah chopping wood by a lonely log cabin with the Kuldahar theme playing.

Then Alec Guiness shows up with some Cossacks, and says "If you ever want to see EB2 you must ride with us" (music changes to Irena's theme).

Then MM is trapped on the Death Star...etc etc.

My mind is wandering somewhat.

**Skullheadhq** · 09-30-2009, 16:17

Why would the EB team bother to make EBII when it's just the same as EBII.
No, some things will not change, but most will. And ALX.exe is not that much of an improvement.

**Kevin** · 09-30-2009, 21:18

I'm pretty sure EB2 will be a LOT better than EB1 in both gameplay (as there a lot of new options) and graphics. However, I'm not sure about the AI... makes you wonder why Creative Assembly has yet to fix the AI as it is apparent in Empire: Total War too that the AI is also stupid.

Oh and in America, the air is full of sweet freedom and the liberty trees have lost their liberal leaves in hopes of preparing for a long, cold winter.

**Megas Methuselah** · 10-01-2009, 01:01

Originally Posted by Kevin

I'm pretty sure EB2 will be a LOT better than EB1 in both gameplay (as there a lot of new options) and graphics. However, I'm not sure about the AI... makes you wonder why Creative Assembly has yet to fix the AI as it is apparent in Empire: Total War too that the AI is also stupid.

If you bothered to read anything, you'd know by now that the M2TW AI is more easily moddable.

Originally Posted by Kevin

Oh and in America, the air is full of sweet freedom and the liberty trees have lost their liberal leaves in hopes of preparing for a long, cold winter.

Technically, Canada is more "free" than America, so... Yeah.

**Cyclops** · 10-01-2009, 04:24

My impressions of EB 2 so far fall into a couple of areas:

1. It will take advantage of the even more beautiful battlefield appearance of M2TW. From what I see of the Gaza preview that is a given, those models are beautiful as we have come to expect from this great team.

2. It will add nuances to the political and social model using (I guess) the guild system as well as culture, religion (as politics) and the FM attribute system. The shades of grey attainable by playing these off against one another will produce a less linear conquer/convert sequence than we see in EB, for the player and the AI.

I wonder if this will let the team use less scripting? Or devote more scripts to other areas like events?

Still in my heart I long to see (selecteive) re-emergent factions (yes to pesky barbaroi, no to inbred dynasties) but I already hear the "HardCoded express" rattling down the line to crush my dream.

In all events it should be similar but better, improving some strengths and some less well developed areas too.

**Kevin** · 10-01-2009, 21:39

Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah

If you bothered to read anything, you'd know by now that the M2TW AI is more easily moddable.

Never said anything about it not being moddable.
As for Canada being more free... haha

Anyways, the Romans (favorite faction in EB) will be a lot better in EB2. Check out the preview

**DaciaJC** · 10-01-2009, 22:42

Originally Posted by Kevin

Anyways, the Romans (favorite faction in EB) will be a lot better in EB2. Check out the preview

We can be sure that every faction will be more fleshed-out in EB2.

**Cambyses** · 10-02-2009, 15:26

ANother reason to get MIITW is that there are some other excellent mods already released that you can play until EBII shows up. Alex will keep you entertained for a month - maximum. MII has a much longer life expectancy.

**Ludens** · 10-02-2009, 15:27

Enough of the contemporary politics. Take those to the Backroom.

**Megas Methuselah** · 10-03-2009, 02:13

MII has a much longer life expectancy.

We can't really know that yet, but judging from how long a life expectancy EB1 offers, and how many new factions and new skins are being introduced with EB2, I think it is safe to say that EB2 will be blessed with longevity.