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    Quote Originally Posted by Elzeda View Post
    The other greeks did not need money quite as much, so they wouldn't be much corrupt. In Athens, at some point, they even paid the people that came to the assembly to vote on things.

    Money allowed positions which required money, such as being responsible for the navy (that one cost a lot of money). It was somewhat an indicative to your social status, but since you had a role in state affairs even if you weren't rich. Otherwise you just needed what was required to live, basically. But money wasn't as important for your social status as it was for Sparte.

    As for Sparte being tyrannic, well, not quite tyrannic, but more so than some, including Athens. They did have an assembly of citizens, but that assembly didn't have any powers. The power was in the hands of some council (the name escapes me atm) of, i think it was 24 people, and two kings. Not quite as tyrannical as a simple tyrant, but far from being as democratic as most other cities.
    As I said before, Spartans didn't need money, they needed goods to pay for the assembly. He had to basicly pay his lunch money every day. Currency was even forbidded by the laws of Lycurgus.

    Sparta consisted of 5 ephors, they were chosen each year and no re-election.

    2 Kings, generals, going by the bloodlines.

    Gerousia, made laws, consisted of 28 men over 60 also elected and the two kings.

    And the Apella, of which all Spartans were a part of. They basicly decided to go to war or not and such mayor decisions. It had been known to detrown a Spartan king so I wouldn't say powerless.

    And as I said, can it be called Tyranic when the "Tyrans" are elected?
    Last edited by Phalanx300; 10-02-2009 at 17:48.

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