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    But can't a "skinny" person actually have a lot of internal fat around the organs?

    And I remembered some more food that I used to eat - my grandma used to make me schniztel, chicken broth, fish, mashed potatoes, fried potatoes, and gretchki (I don't know what those are in English). I actually began eating TV dinners as a part of the gradual phasing out of my grandmother's cooking. They're very tasty though.

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    Talking Re: Smoking and Obesity

    Quote Originally Posted by Azathoth View Post
    But can't a "skinny" person actually have a lot of internal fat around the organs?
    Yes, but unlikely. Far greater danger is to have one's arteries clogged, which is very, very much possible with a slim, yet unhealthy eater.

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    Well, knowing your heritage, in Russia and Ukraine that would be buckwheat, which is simply cannot ever have enough of.

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    My principal issue with the whole "smoking/overeating" debate is: Don't start what you can't finish. It's a willpower issue. And I honestly don't see how technology is ever going to give anyone more willpower.

    Regardless of how tasty texan 8000cal deep fried steak with cheese and snickers is, I'm not going to have one every day. And if you're idiot enough to do that, well, you're like that guy who was masturbating by the working chainsaw.

    The emphasis shouldn't be on technology to solve people's problems, but on letting people know that they will really die in 10 years if they continue eating/smoking at the current rate. It's not that difficult to eat only when you're hungry, and start with a soup or a salad.

    It also isn't so difficult to quit smoking. Considering most people do it just to do something with their hands. Are people really so uncomfortable around their hands?

    Don't get me wrong, I think that if food has transfats, or asbestos, or enriched polonium, it should say so clearly on the label, but government imposing extra tax? Why is the government responsible for our own idiocy? Are we really capable of electing that government if we can't pick foods that are good for us?

    I personally find it all a bit silly. Entire nations worried because their populations lack willpower. What do people expect? Not to lose weight themselves but get a politician to force someone to make them do it?

    Really? Is that where we've gone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster View Post
    It also isn't so difficult to quit smoking. Considering most people do it just to do something with their hands. Are people really so uncomfortable around their hands?
    I would not rush to that conclusion unless I was a smoker myself... Regardless of the start, in the end, the result is uniform: nicotine addiction. That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    I would not rush to that conclusion unless I was a smoker myself... Regardless of the start, in the end, the result is uniform: nicotine addiction. That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.
    Well, I had smoked for 2 years before quitting, my granddad had smoked for 45 before quitting for 8. People believe what tv tells them about how difficult it is, and go buy nicorettes when they just don't want to quit badly enough to actually quit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster View Post
    Well, I had smoked for 2 years before quitting, my granddad had smoked for 45 before quitting for 8. People believe what tv tells them about how difficult it is, and go buy nicorettes when they just don't want to quit badly enough to actually quit.
    Ahh, I see

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    Really? Is that where we've gone?
    Yes, and it's evident in most aspects of modern life.
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    Default Re: Smoking and Obesity

    That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.
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    Narcotics are opiates. Drugs like morphine, heroin, codeine, etc. are considered to be narcotics. Nicotine is a stimulant.

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