Conservation of Angular Momentum

[Zain]

I have read the entire bible several times and there is no mention that evolution is wrong in it ever. There is no mention that to believe in evolution will dam me to hell.

The bible states nowhere that it requires you to believe god created the universe it only states you must believe in god and not to believe in other gods like Thor or Bhaal.

He also says believe in his word and in his word Genesis 1 describes everything.

[gaelic cowboy]

He also says believe in his word and in his word Genesis 1 describes everything.

Show me the verse were god said evolution is wrong and I dam you too hell for believing otherwise.

Gods laws are by his own words according to the bible in the Ten Commandments nowhere in the ten commandments am I asked to believe in Genesis.

In fact apart from the first commandment the other nine are perfectly acceptable to non believers.

Therefore am I dammed more than someone who fought in a war and killed someone even though they believed.

Anyway I am straying from the point here were talking about dynamics.

[Zain]

Show me the verse were god said evolution is wrong and I dam you too hell for believing otherwise.

Gods laws are by his own words according to the bible in the Ten Commandments nowhere in the ten commandments am I asked to believe in Genesis.

In fact apart from the first commandment the other nine are perfectly acceptable to non believers.

Therefore am I dammed more than someone who fought in a war and killed someone even though they believed.

Anyway I am straying from the point here were talking about dynamics.

It does say that, when it says Adam brought death and sin into the world in the book of Romans. Evolution had millions of years of death so therefore the bible and Evolution conflict.

Back to subject, Where did the universe come from and how does it not break the first law of thermodynamics?

[drone]

Back to subject, Where did the universe come from and how does it not break the first law of thermodynamics?

From Wiki:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang

Without any evidence associated with the earliest instant of the expansion, the Big Bang theory cannot and does not provide any explanation for such an initial condition; rather, it describes and explains the general evolution of the Universe since that instant.

The Big Bang theory therefore does not care where the initial matter/energy came from, and therefore fits with the 1st law.

I believe that God made it. Its my answer. My "theory" answers that question. Cool huh?

With this response, trollness confirmed. Enjoy life, I have dogs to exercise.

[Zain]

From Wiki:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang

The Big Bang theory therefore does not care where the initial matter/energy came from, and therefore fits with the 1st law.


With this response, trollness confirmed. Enjoy life, I have dogs to exercise.

I don't understand "Trollness" but if you want to go be outside then go for it

The theory does not care because it's incomplete. How sad that it's become such an epidemic as the "Creation of the Universe"

[gaelic cowboy]

It does say that, when it says Adam brought death and sin into the world in the book of Romans. Evolution had millions of years of death so therefore the bible and Evolution conflict.

Back to subject, Where did the universe come from and how does it not break the first law of thermodynamics?

True but there is no proof that the Adam is not some microbe in a pond billions of years ago, and there is still no proof Adam was made of mud in the middle east somewhere.

We cannot postulate on where the universe "CAME" from because we live in this one it is impossible to know according to current theory.

I myself have already stated in the science forum in the Frontroom I have problems with the big bang but I do not have any problem with pretty much how the universe ordered itself after this moment.

You state how does it not break the First Law

The increase in the internal energy of a system is equal to the amount of energy added by heating the system, minus the amount lost as a result of the work done by the system on its surroundings.

A big bang would create massive energy thus the order of the system would be massively disordered this possibly caused expansion I cannot be sure I am not a Quantum Physicist.

[Zain]

True but there is no proof that the Adam is not some microbe in a pond billions of years ago, and there is still no proof Adam was made of mud in the middle east somewhere.

We cannot postulate on where the universe "CAME" from because we live in this one it is impossible to know according to current theory.

I myself have already stated in the science forum in the Frontroom I have problems with the big bang but I do not have any problem with pretty much how the universe ordered itself after this moment.

You state how does it not break the First Law

The increase in the internal energy of a system is equal to the amount of energy added by heating the system, minus the amount lost as a result of the work done by the system on its surroundings.

A big bang would create massive energy thus the order of the system would be massively disordered this possibly caused expansion I cannot be sure I am not a Quantum Physicist.

I have my problems with it too hence why I do not see it is a viable theory for the question I have.

The answer I see makes more sense and answers all the questions.

I hate unanswered questions.

[gaelic cowboy]

I have my problems with it too hence why I do not see it is a viable theory for the question I have.

The answer I see makes more sense and answers all the questions.

I hate unanswered questions.

Do you ever fear then that it should be Bhaal or Thor or possibly Dagda you should really be believing what if Crom Cruach is the one true god are we all doomed?????

[Zain]

Do you ever fear then that it should be Bhaal or Thor or possibly Dagda you should really be believing what if Crom Cruach is the one true god are we all doomed?????

I do not see the evidence of Thor or Bhaal. Everything is explained in God's word. I feel that he has control of my life and has transformed my life. It's a faith thing as well but I gladly accept that for the love I feel.

[Centurion1]

This thread demonstrates as AP said the futility. Especially the futility of the backroom. i have never ever seen anyone change their mind on an issue. We mare all arguing for the sake of arguing. We should form a debate team we wouldd be unstoppable. And whenever we falter we will throw tribes in to shout bollocks until we think of something

[gaelic cowboy]

This thread demonstrates as AP said the futility. Especially the futility of the backroom. i have never ever seen anyone change their mind on an issue. We mare all arguing for the sake of arguing. We should form a debate team we wouldd be unstoppable. And whenever we falter we will throw tribes in to shout bollocks until we think of something

yes it is futile but for a while we were trying to explain how the universe was in line with the laws of Thermo.

[Kadagar_AV]

I have my problems with it too hence why I do not see it is a viable theory for the question I have.

The answer I see makes more sense and answers all the questions.

I hate unanswered questions.

It takes a developed human mind to come to terms with the fact that we can not, ever, have all the answers.

For people who does not wish to practise thinking, you have religion. Just insert "god did it" or "it is gods will", or why not "god works in mysterious ways" <- into any topic at all, and you are all set. No need for thinking, you can just go on with your life.

Then there are those, of course, who believe in god AND practises thinking. Those I have the outmost respect for. However, young earth creationists are not part of this crowd.

[Zain]

It takes a developed human mind to come to terms with the fact that we can not, ever, have all the answers.

For people who does not wish to practise thinking, you have religion. Just insert "god did it" or "it is gods will", or why not "god works in mysterious ways" <- into any topic at all, and you are all set. No need for thinking, you can just go on with your life.

Then there are those, of course, who believe in god AND practises thinking. Those I have the outmost respect for. However, young earth creationists are not part of this crowd.

My argument still stands. Believing in a young earth doesn't make me wrong compared to all the other theories because I believe in the limiting factors on Earth and what they stand for.