Iranian official blames deadly bombing on 'U.S. actions'

[HoreTore]

Next time use a clown smiley.

Why?

Honestly, it is the western attitude towards the afghan population. We just don't care as much about them as we care about ourselves. Possibly because they're almost black and talk funny.

Would we have fought the same way in a defensive war in our own country, among our own countrymen, as we are currently doing in Afghanistan? I think not. And there's only one answer as to why; we just don't care about them as much as we care about ourselves. Because they're worth less in our eyes.

[rvg]

Why?

Honestly, it is the western attitude towards the afghan population. We just don't care as much about them as we care about ourselves. Possibly because they're almost black and talk funny.

Would we have fought the same way in a defensive war in our own country, among our own countrymen, as we are currently doing in Afghanistan? I think not. And there's only one answer as to why; we just don't care about them as much as we care about ourselves. Because they're worth less in our eyes.

That's a human attitude towards other humans. You're quick to blame the West for something that pretty much everyone is guilty of. People love themselves, that's a given. Next on the list are their families as an extension of themselves. Then come their countrymen because of common language, culture and looks. Then it's those who share their religion or lack of it. Then comes everyone else. It's not a western thing, it's a human thing.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Afghans are just like us. The speak a predominantly Indo-Aryan languages, have white features and are monotheists. The difference is that they are hillbillies and we want to make them stop playing the banjo and beating their women. Some US soldiers probably have more in common with them than you think.

I don't see Afghans as all that different, just more removed from functional, progressive society. We are here to forcibly escort them to the party. It's ironic that we are there to force them to be in control of their destinies

[Centurion1]

We are here to forcibly escort them to the party.

love that


Horetore
1- afghans are not nearly black......
2.- i sincerely doubt that race is the factor
3- if anything i think it is because of self-interest as someone said above people obviously care more about their own families and countries than other peoples.
4- just because we dont care as much doesnt mean we care.

[ICantSpellDawg]

3- if anything i think it is because of self-interest as someone said above people obviously care more about their own families and countries than other peoples.
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I care more about Americans than Norwegians. I care more about Afghans than Norwegians. Got nothin but love for the uzbeks, turkmen, balochs etc. too.

[HoreTore]

I doubt Hore, if I may use his first name, has seen many Afghans if he thinks they're nearly black.

They're certainly on the brown end of the colour scale, also known as the "nobody cares"-end.

Quoted for truth. Race and Language aren't involved at specifically. It's just that natural us/them that arises between radically different peoples. Especially when those peoples are at war.

Fine, substitute it with "general üntermenschen" then.

1- afghans are not nearly black......
2.- i sincerely doubt that race is the factor
3- if anything i think it is because of self-interest as someone said above people obviously care more about their own families and countries than other peoples.
4- just because we dont care as much doesnt mean we care.

So.... You honestly believe that the US would've waged their war the same way if it was done on US soil, among US citizens?

Until the US starts waging war is if it was among their own citizens, they won't ever win the war in Afghanistan. Period. And that's actually something the new high commander has figured out... Oh well, it was only 8 years too late...

[Papewaio]

So we are in effect truant officers in Afghanistan...

[Centurion1]

^ yes, yes we are. to make sure they dont skip class and smoke weed (or opium in this case) in the back of the school.

Adn also smuggle weapons and blow themselves up.

[Ice]

^ yes, yes we are. to make sure they dont skip class and smoke weed (or opium in this case) in the back of the school.

Ah high school... I remember the school policeman we nicknamed sarge... good times

[Dâriûsh]

Seriously though, anyone care to guess where Iranian agents will detonate a retaliatory car bomb?


Saudi Arabia or Pakistan? Then we will know who Iran REALLY suspects of pulling this off. Heck, I'll wager that if no car bomb explodes in Iran’s neighbourhood (not counting Iraq, car bombs always explode there) in the next few days or weeks, it was an inside job, and they will use it as a pretext to make some local Baluchis disappear.

[AlexanderSextus]

to make sure they dont skip class and smoke weed

I remember reading a story one of our soldiers wrote that said you could smell ganja before you could even see the town you were going to because they grew so much weed there.

There is a reason we have weed here called "afghani kush"

[Centurion1]

So.... You honestly believe that the US would've waged their war the same way if it was done on US soil, among US citizens?

no would be totally different war and the two cannot be equated. Find a different example.


as to what you said earlier i wouldnt say no one cares about brown people. im sure the billion odd Indians care about themselves. and the two billion or so Asians care about themselves.

[Banquo's Ghost]

Afghans are just like us. The speak a predominantly Indo-Aryan languages, have white features and are monotheists. The difference is that they are hillbillies and we want to make them stop playing the banjo and beating their women. Some US soldiers probably have more in common with them than you think.

I don't see Afghans as all that different, just more removed from functional, progressive society. We are here to forcibly escort them to the party. It's ironic that we are there to force them to be in control of their destinies

And ironically, they are resisting the dragging as forcibly as the Americans resisted attempts by the British to include them in a "functional, progressive society". They appear to view imperialism with the same jaundiced view as the colonials - only they have had to fight off several more empires.

Yes, indeed - more in common than you think.

[Hax]

The difference is that they are hillbillies and we want to make them stop playing the banjo and beating their women.

Who's pickin' the banjer 'ere?

[ICantSpellDawg]

And ironically, they are resisting the dragging as forcibly as the Americans resisted attempts by the British to include them in a "functional, progressive society". They appear to view imperialism with the same jaundiced view as the colonials - only they have had to fight off several more empires.

Yes, indeed - more in common than you think.

We've got plenty in common, yes.

You believe that the American Revolution is on a parallel with the Afghan conflict? I don't remember American Colonials bombing Harrods in London and then shooting one another for wearing make-up.

You can equate any conflict with any other conflict. There tends to be one larger power fighting a smaller power, all things being unequal.

[HoreTore]

I don't remember American Colonials bombing Harrods in London

No, but I can certainly remember some colonials horribly torturing and killing unsuspecting and innocent British soldiers.

Also, the tactics are similar, being a guerilla war. Washington fought a battle of attrition to wear down the english willingness to hold the colonies and avoid larger battles, the Taliban are doing the same thing...

[Vladimir]

No, but I can certainly remember some colonials horribly torturing and killing unsuspecting and innocent British soldiers.

Also, the tactics are similar, being a guerilla war. Washington fought a battle of attrition to wear down the english willingness to hold the colonies and avoid larger battles, the Taliban are doing the same thing...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Why?

Honestly, it is the western attitude towards the afghan population. We just don't care as much about them as we care about ourselves.

Almost certainly true.

Possibly because they're almost black and talk funny.

No, at least not to any measurable extent. Yank soldiers may an us/them outlook on the Afghanis, but I very seriously doubt that skin tone or differing language is the reason.

[Vladimir]

I doubt Hore, if I may use his first name, has seen many Afghans if he thinks they're nearly black.