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    Hello again!

    I am currently confused which one to buy/read.

    The Armenians A.E. Redgate

    A History of Armenia, Vahan M. Kurkjian

    Someone who can give me some tips which one would be better to read? I know the bottom one is online but I cant read such a huge book online. So which one do you advise to read from page 1 to the end?

    ~Fluvius
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    I lived for three years not knowing what AAR is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    Hello again!

    I am currently confused which one to buy/read.

    The Armenians A.E. Redgate

    A History of Armenia, Vahan M. Kurkjian

    Someone who can give me some tips which one would be better to read? I know the bottom one is online but I cant read such a huge book online. So which one do you advise to read from page 1 to the end?

    ~Fluvius
    Read the second one, definitely. Read Michael Chahin's "Kingdom of Armenia" (I believe that is what it is called. Can't believe I've forgotten the name, I own the book and after reading it many times, it is simply collecting dust!). If you can, buy the blue version of Chahin's book, as it is the newer post-soviet version. The version I own is the red/pinkish version, the late soviet-era version. No biggie, just a bit more expensive to get the newer one ;)

    I haven't read the first book, but hey, go for it. Whatever you do, don't take everything you read too literally. You might come across stuff that seems odd, etc. It's too much of a headache I say. As an Armenian (read 'ultra-nationalist'), I might not agree with everything the writers say, but I enjoy the text, like I enjoy sci-fi novels (and I ENJOY SCI FI NOVELS BELIEVE ME!!). So just read, and have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vartan View Post
    Read the second one, definitely. Read Michael Chahin's "Kingdom of Armenia" (I believe that is what it is called. Can't believe I've forgotten the name, I own the book and after reading it many times, it is simply collecting dust!). If you can, buy the blue version of Chahin's book, as it is the newer post-soviet version. The version I own is the red/pinkish version, the late soviet-era version. No biggie, just a bit more expensive to get the newer one ;)

    I haven't read the first book, but hey, go for it. Whatever you do, don't take everything you read too literally. You might come across stuff that seems odd, etc. It's too much of a headache I say. As an Armenian (read 'ultra-nationalist'), I might not agree with everything the writers say, but I enjoy the text, like I enjoy sci-fi novels (and I ENJOY SCI FI NOVELS BELIEVE ME!!). So just read, and have fun!

    Enjoy,
    Vartan
    Thank you for the reply, its good to hear from someone.

    I found the Kingdom of Armenia one (blue), it is around 50 euros. I did spend a lot on the EB bibliography, so I might wait a while till I buy that, still if you keep reading it, it will probably good although I am not a Armenian ultra-nationalist. When I will make a new order in the future it will probably contain the following ones:

    - Babylon, Memphis, Persepolis - Walter Burkert Hardcover
    - If I have to believe you the Armenian book from Vahan Kurkijan instead of the A.E. Redgates one.
    - Maybe Sun Tzu, art of war. I came across it and it was only 10 euros for a 200 page oxford edition, so why not?

    I am reading Soldiers & Ghosts from J.E. Lendon atm.

    I have managed to get quite a collection in 1 and a half month. First I had nothing and now my bookshelf contains around 10 EB bibliography books

    ~Fluvius
    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrius
    Oh my god, i think that is the first time in human history that someone cares to explain an acronym that people expect everybody to know in advance.
    I lived for three years not knowing what AAR is.

    Completed Campaigns: Epeiros (EB1.0), Romani (EB1.1), Baktria (1.2) and Arche Seleukeia
    1x From Olaf the Great for my quote!
    3x1x<-- From Maion Maroneios for succesful campaigns!
    5x2x<-- From Aemilius Paulus for winning a contest!
    1x From Mulceber!

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    Hello again!

    I recently ordered the recommended Celtic historical atlas. It was very detailed and I found it really interesting.

    Now my question is:

    Are there more EB recommended Historical Atlasses? The other one of John Haywood, the historical atlas of ancient civilisations perhaps?

    Thanks in advance.

    ~Fluvius
    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrius
    Oh my god, i think that is the first time in human history that someone cares to explain an acronym that people expect everybody to know in advance.
    I lived for three years not knowing what AAR is.

    Completed Campaigns: Epeiros (EB1.0), Romani (EB1.1), Baktria (1.2) and Arche Seleukeia
    1x From Olaf the Great for my quote!
    3x1x<-- From Maion Maroneios for succesful campaigns!
    5x2x<-- From Aemilius Paulus for winning a contest!
    1x From Mulceber!

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    I hereby revive this Thread!

    But really, I don't know which book to pick:

    Alexander Of Macedon, 356-323 B.C. Peter Green
    Engels - Paperback

    OR

    Conquest and Empire
    Conquest and Empire A. B. Bosworth
    Engels - Paperback

    The last one is not included in the EB bibliography but both are recommended by Frank Holt from Thundering Zeus.

    Thanks in advance!

    ~Fluvius
    Quote Originally Posted by Equilibrius
    Oh my god, i think that is the first time in human history that someone cares to explain an acronym that people expect everybody to know in advance.
    I lived for three years not knowing what AAR is.

    Completed Campaigns: Epeiros (EB1.0), Romani (EB1.1), Baktria (1.2) and Arche Seleukeia
    1x From Olaf the Great for my quote!
    3x1x<-- From Maion Maroneios for succesful campaigns!
    5x2x<-- From Aemilius Paulus for winning a contest!
    1x From Mulceber!

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    Does any EB group member have advice regarding Augustan and post-Principate Provincia Galatia?
    I'm already using Mitchell 2003 (Anatolia) and Magie 1993. I can't really use anything but English. Ich spreche ein bisschen Deutsch.

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    Hi...

    I just found an interesting book about the Kingdom of Saba in my library, and I wonder if the EB team used it, or was it dissmised for some reason. The book is in German though, so I have no idea what it says.

    The book name is : Das Reich der Königin von Saba, by Gabriel Mandel.
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