Israel and Hamas possibly facing a trial

[Fragony]

You didn't post it other than a link, so it took me 3 views of the topic trying to find it.

I liked it. Far more "the real story" than the previously posted one.

It's very biased, read it anyway because it's really good. As an art-form.

[Beskar]

It does have the part where terrorists attack Israel. But it is pretty correct. Hamas did get elected, for example and Israel doing embargo's ensuring food, oil and supplies don't reach the people of Gaza.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I tried to stay away from that sort of trivia.

Why on Earth would you support something contrary to your national interests? Right, if you're an impractical internationalist. Enjoy yourself then.

It does have the part where terrorists attack Israel. But it is pretty correct. Hamas did get elected, for example and Israel doing embargo's ensuring food, oil and supplies don't reach the people of Gaza.

And why did Israel put up that embargo? It has to be because they want to starve innocent Palestinians, can't possibly be for a more sensible and less cruel reason, nope.

[HoreTore]

Why on Earth would you support something contrary to your national interests? Right, if you're an impractical internationalist. Enjoy yourself then.

Some people actually realize that the people living outside your nation are actually human beings just like we are.

Weird, I know.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Some people actually realize that the people living outside your nation are actually human beings just like we are.

Weird, I know.

Don't worry, I'm well aware of that. I think the vast majority of people are, to be honest. That doesn't change the fact that it isn't very smart to put someone acting contrary to your interests ahead of someone acting in favour to your interests, especially if you believe, as I do, that the one acting in favour of you is right.

[HoreTore]

Don't worry, I'm well aware of that. I think the vast majority of people are, to be honest. That doesn't change the fact that it isn't very smart to put someone acting contrary to your interests ahead of someone acting in favour to your interests, especially if you believe, as I do, that the one acting in favour of you is right.

If someone isn't acting on the interest of humanity, he isn't acting in my interest. A person who acts solely in favour of Norway is not in any way acting in my interest.

[Beskar]

Some people actually realize that the people living outside your nation are actually human beings just like we are.

Weird, I know.

You forget, Kaiser Bill is an Evil Maniac from Mars.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

If someone isn't acting on the interest of humanity, he isn't acting in my interest. A person who acts solely in favour of Norway is not in any way acting in my interest.

Suit yourself, but you may well have a different answer if you are ever directly threatened. Nonetheless, to an extent I agree with you. That is one of the reasons I take Israel's side - they are, in my opinion, on the side of right - or as close as you can get in the situation.

You forget, Kaiser Bill is an Evil Maniac from Mars.

You forgot to acknowledge my response.

[HoreTore]

Suit yourself, but you may well have a different answer if you are ever directly threatened.

So......

I guess terrorism is no longer a threat then?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

So......

I guess terrorism is no longer a threat then?

Sure it is, but not to you or your country. In Israel it is a very real and ever present danger, and one of the reasons why Operation Cast Lead was launched in the first place, as well as the reason that Pakistan is now involved in operations against the Taliban in the north, thankfully with success so far.

[HoreTore]

Sure it is, but not to you or your country.

Please, will you join me and try to get that fact into the thick skulls of our leaders?

[Subotan]

It's very biased, read it anyway because it's really good. As an art-form.

It does have the part where terrorists attack Israel. But it is pretty correct. Hamas did get elected, for example and Israel doing embargo's ensuring food, oil and supplies don't reach the people of Gaza.

I have never had anyone describe my "drawings" as an "art form" before

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Please, will you join me and try to get that fact into the thick skulls of our leaders?

If I respond to this in the way I'd like to I'd be crossing the line into trolling.

[Fragony]

I have never had anyone describe my "drawings" as an "art form" before

well hello

[HoreTore]

If I respond to this in the way I'd like to I'd be crossing the line into trolling.

Hmm, I'm not sure exactly what you're after here, but... I can assure you that there is noone here who appreciates Norway-bashing more than I do

A bloody frozen hell-hole God forgot, that's what it is. I am so emigrating to France.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Hmm, I'm not sure exactly what you're after here, but... I can assure you that there is noone here who appreciates Norway-bashing more than I do

Red-Green Coalition bashing is more along the lines of what I was thinking.

[HoreTore]

Red-Green Coalition bashing is more along the lines of what I was thinking.

You think I have anything against that?

I have never in my life trusted Stoltenberg. The only reason I can tolerate him, is because he's being whipped by Halvorsen and Navarsete(the two other party leaders). I dread what would happen if the right won the election and we got a labour minority government...

Anyway, when I said "our", I meant me and you and everyone else, not just my own leaders... Because Stoltenberg actually isn't that hot on the tewwowist scare, it's only ever talked about when they're trying to prevent voters fleeing from labour to the progress party, and then it's delegated to some other party member, like Kolberg or Gerhardsen... The 3 top scaremongerers here are Jørn Holme, chief of the secret police, Erna Solberg, leader of the conservatives and of course Siv Jensen, leader of the progress party. Most others couldn't care less about a non-existant threat...

[Hax]

An interesting view, from the other side. I suggest the right-wingers here look at it.

[Kralizec]

AFAIK, the pretext why the Netherlands (and presumably some others) voted against was that while the report itself did have a small paragraph mentioning Palestinian attacks on civilians, the resolution wich was put up for vote was a one-sided condemnation of Israel.

Meh.

[Jolt]

An interesting view, from the other side. I suggest the right-wingers here look at it.

Utterly fantastic interview.