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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Do you drink? Drive a car? Eat fast food? Use power tools? Support any sort of political movement?
    Bah. Not even close.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Bah. Not even close.
    Well now you're just bloody lying. You don't drink?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Well now you're just bloody lying. You don't drink?
    I am quite sure that my water company doesn't kill anyone.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    I am quite sure that my water company doesn't kill anyone.
    Let me rephrase, DO YOU DRINK ALCOHOL?
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

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    Yes, and Aass brewery doesn't kill people either.

    If people kill themselves by overuse of their products, then that's something else. That wasn't what I was talking about previously. The drug industry kills people to produce their products, something no brewery I know of does.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Yes, and Aass brewery doesn't kill people either.

    If people kill themselves by overuse of their products, then that's something else. That wasn't what I was talking about previously. The drug industry kills people to produce their products, something no brewery I know of does.
    Alcohol claims far more lives, directly and indirectly than all the illicit drugs put together x10.

    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    treat drugs like other drugs are currently treated in the UK.

    alcohol/coffee/ibruprofen - freely available within quality control constraints to over eighteens.
    harder drugs - prescription only.
    By what rationale is alcohol not a hard drug?
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    By what rationale is alcohol not a hard drug?
    by the rationale that we don't accept it as one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Yes, and Aass brewery doesn't kill people either.

    If people kill themselves by overuse of their products, then that's something else. That wasn't what I was talking about previously. The drug industry kills people to produce their products, something no brewery I know of does.
    Alcohol is highly habit forming and is very capable of killing someone just like cocaine.

    All people kill themselves by overuse that's why it's called and overdose.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
    Alcohol claims far more lives, directly and indirectly than all the illicit drugs put together x10.
    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Alcohol is highly habit forming and is very capable of killing someone just like cocaine.

    All people kill themselves by overuse that's why it's called and overdose.
    Again, not what I'm talking about. Until I see a brewer doing a hit and run, I'll continue to drink. Until the drug industry stops doing hit and runs, I won't touch their pot.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    A fair point, but it begs the question of whether we want people buying cocaine at their corner shop. A number of young men have died in my home town from massive heart attacks, where use is prevelant.

    I've also watched people turn into complete wastrels on hash.
    I don't think there is anyone on any side of the debate who believes there is a way of stopping people wasting their lives one way or another. The question is now all about harm and cost reduction to the individual and to society. There is a middle ground between corner shop and the alley behind the corner shop.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Yes but what would we be doing on the other side all that, we would be actively supporting some very sick people, there is a lot of tragedy at the other side of our supply. We can make rules here but we can't change the very nature of the trade it's from south America and those controlling it are scum, how exactly are you going to legalize it without destroying lives. I do not want to pay taxes for that.
    There is no reason why the cocaine market can't become expolitative and unfair in the same legitimated way the chocolate and coffee trade is.
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