What changes would you support to our narcotics laws?

[HoreTore]

Do you drink? Drive a car? Eat fast food? Use power tools? Support any sort of political movement?

Bah. Not even close.

[Strike For The South]

Bah. Not even close.

Well now you're just bloody lying. You don't drink?

[HoreTore]

Well now you're just bloody lying. You don't drink?

I am quite sure that my water company doesn't kill anyone.

[Strike For The South]

I am quite sure that my water company doesn't kill anyone.

Let me rephrase, DO YOU DRINK ALCOHOL?

[HoreTore]

Yes, and Aass brewery doesn't kill people either.

If people kill themselves by overuse of their products, then that's something else. That wasn't what I was talking about previously. The drug industry kills people to produce their products, something no brewery I know of does.

[Idaho]

Yes, and Aass brewery doesn't kill people either.

If people kill themselves by overuse of their products, then that's something else. That wasn't what I was talking about previously. The drug industry kills people to produce their products, something no brewery I know of does.

Alcohol claims far more lives, directly and indirectly than all the illicit drugs put together x10.

treat drugs like other drugs are currently treated in the UK.

alcohol/coffee/ibruprofen - freely available within quality control constraints to over eighteens.
harder drugs - prescription only.

By what rationale is alcohol not a hard drug?

[Furunculus]

By what rationale is alcohol not a hard drug?

by the rationale that we don't accept it as one.

[Strike For The South]

Yes, and Aass brewery doesn't kill people either.

If people kill themselves by overuse of their products, then that's something else. That wasn't what I was talking about previously. The drug industry kills people to produce their products, something no brewery I know of does.

Alcohol is highly habit forming and is very capable of killing someone just like cocaine.

All people kill themselves by overuse that's why it's called and overdose.

[HoreTore]

Alcohol claims far more lives, directly and indirectly than all the illicit drugs put together x10.

Alcohol is highly habit forming and is very capable of killing someone just like cocaine.

All people kill themselves by overuse that's why it's called and overdose.

Again, not what I'm talking about. Until I see a brewer doing a hit and run, I'll continue to drink. Until the drug industry stops doing hit and runs, I won't touch their pot.

[Idaho]

A fair point, but it begs the question of whether we want people buying cocaine at their corner shop. A number of young men have died in my home town from massive heart attacks, where use is prevelant.

I've also watched people turn into complete wastrels on hash.

I don't think there is anyone on any side of the debate who believes there is a way of stopping people wasting their lives one way or another. The question is now all about harm and cost reduction to the individual and to society. There is a middle ground between corner shop and the alley behind the corner shop.

Yes but what would we be doing on the other side all that, we would be actively supporting some very sick people, there is a lot of tragedy at the other side of our supply. We can make rules here but we can't change the very nature of the trade it's from south America and those controlling it are scum, how exactly are you going to legalize it without destroying lives. I do not want to pay taxes for that.

There is no reason why the cocaine market can't become expolitative and unfair in the same legitimated way the chocolate and coffee trade is.