
Originally Posted by
CountArach
You'll have to try harder than that...
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php.../the-cru-hack/
More interesting is what is not contained in the emails. There is no evidence of any worldwide conspiracy, no mention of George Soros nefariously funding climate research, no grand plan to ‘get rid of the MWP’, no admission that global warming is a hoax, no evidence of the falsifying of data, and no ‘marching orders’ from our socialist/communist/vegetarian overlords. The truly paranoid will put this down to the hackers also being in on the plot though.
Yes, I too am still waiting for shocking revelations to emerge from those hacked/leaked correspondence.
The most shocking thing to emerge is that those who belive in a vast conspiracy managed to get their hands on 161 MB of internal memo's and not find any smoking guns.
'Polarization', and not conspiracy is at the root of politicised science in Climate Studies. Scientists and pressure groups will want to prove 'their side' right, instead of calmly exploring the facts and expanding our understanding.
Most falsification, funding and politicised science is to be found on the side arguing that there is no climate implications of human behaviour.
Hardly any economic activity goes without some suspiciously funded scienctific report that conclusively proves that the activity will have no lasting impact on the environment.
Former communist East Europe meanwhile showed what happens to the environment if short-term economic gain is the sole overriding consideration.
In the West too, usually, for decades detrimental activities go unchecked. Claims abound that they are 'scientifically proven to have little to no impact'. Then a few simple measures adopted at long last finally makes fish return to the Seine, solves the smog in London, reduces acid rain, solves health problems. It is very frustrating how the financial gain of a few manage to override the financial gain of the many for decades, every single time, usually when a few simple measures at no great cost at all could've prevented the problem in the first place.
The sub-discussion:
Fragony is very moderate nowadays. He hasn't been far right for ages.
Tribesy is sorely missed, but from what I gather he was asked to stop the personal crusade against Frags, which he couldn't let go so Tribesy left.
Bah, the Backroom has been boring ever since.
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