The Red Phoenix [Concluded]

[FactionHeir]

Sprig attacked me last night. I know because I removed his helmet.
Bad Sprig

vote: Sprig

[Askthepizzaguy]

vote: Sprig

I believe FactionHeir, until proven otherwise.

[Death is yonder]

Oh the irony, the guy who exposed me is really a killer

[Yaropolk]

Yeah, I'm not xu zhu, just wanted to protect FH. vote sprig

[Sprig]

Ok what? I’m not sure what is going on here? But there is obviously some confusion. If I didn't know that FactionHeir was a confirmed innocent, I would have thought he was trying to frame a detective.

Why on earth would I attack you? I brought forth the traitors Pang Tong and Xun Yu. What would I have to gain… :(
Also I spoke out against Xu Zhu revealing himself. Surely if I was mafia I would want to know who he was.
But in anycase, I was there last night since I had chosen FactionHeir for Investigation. It was Yaropolk’s post and cryptic PM that lead me to investigate FactionHeir.

I wonder if you were setting me up? FOS: Yaropolk.

Oh the irony, the guy who exposed me is really a killer

I'm no killer, I have been marvellously set up. Congrats on who did it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If you're not a killer we still have time to lynch your accuser.

Be a good townie; roll up and die when asked to. Then we kill the person who falsely claimed you were guilty.

[Sprig]

If you're not a killer we still have time to lynch your accuser.

Be a good townie; roll up and die when asked to. Then we kill the person who falsely claimed you were guilty.

Sounds fair, though from the write-up it seems clear to me, that two people attacked him. I can't really see any concieveable way that he is a mafia though.

I will make clear that I got no result from my investigation since it was foiled by the assassination attempt. But if he was mafia, He would have to be seperate from those that attacked him and also would make the mafia to innocent ratio rather unbalanced...

[Yaropolk]

The writeup made it clear, the two killers worked in concert. I didn't PM anything suspicious to Sprig. In fact I let him know that I wasn't Xu Zhu, and that I said it to take heat off FH. In retrospect it was a mistake to tell this to Sprig, as he knew who to attack.

[Sprig]

Your PM didn't say anything of the sort. On reflection, it would have been much better to investigate you. Vote: Yaropolk.

[Jolt]

The Red Phoenix - Day 5

Once again, there was little discussion as a member of the council stepped forward with relevant information of the previous night. This time it was Faction Heir, none other than the same man attacked the night before. He came forward and accused the young prodigy Sprig, who had previously and accused and successfully convinced the council of the dubious intentions of Xun Yu and Pang Tong.

Faction Heir said that in the battle last night, he had managed to remove Sima Yi's helmet, therefore revealing his face. The council quickly nodded and accepted the attacked man's accusation. Sima Yi was quickly pushed into the same position as he had pushed Pang Tong into, last day. Yet he tried to convince the council of his innocence, relating his previous deeds, so quickly forgotten by the council, besides accusing Yaropolk and pretending to be Xu Chu. Regardless, he was unable to move the obdurate council, who firmly stood behind the attacked man's acusation. Seeing the Council had reached a decision, Cao Cao could only sigh. "It had been my personal decision to bring you into this expedition Sima Yi, and I thought you were one to be fully loyal towards lofty ideals. Alas, you decided to act against us all and tried to take the life of great Faction Heir. But you have been exposed, and regardless of your talent you must die a rebel's death."
With that, Cao Cao nodded to his guards, who grabbed and brought Sima Yi outside where he was beheaded and his head paraded around the camp.

Sima Yi, Junior Military Advisor of the Han Army, has been executed.

After the council had been dismissed, Surpreme Naval Admiral Yu Jin came to talk to Cao Cao at noon. After being granted an audience and salutions exchanged, Cao Cao pressed quickly into the matter "I am currently busy Yu Jin. What do you want to discuss?" Yu Jin nodded and said "My Lord Cao, I am pleased to inform you that the navy is relatively well trained. We can attack per your command, Prime Minister."
This was the best news for Cao Cao in several weeks now. Smiling, he nodded towards his General and replied "Good, good. We shall not attack just yet. We still have some unfinished business to attend to before we can strike with all confidence." Yu Jin could only deduce that the business was related to the numerous executions of high profile advisors ever since the mutinous documents had spread around the camp. Sensing that this was some sort of purge, or that Sun Quan's men had infiltrated Cao Cao's ranks, Yu Jin did not press the matter further, but only nodded in compliance. "Very well Prime Minister. That was all needed to report to you." Cao Cao nodded with a dismissive hand "Very well General Yu. You may return to your duties." Yu Jin nodded only once before he left the Cao Cao's tent.

Night had come once again. Everyone knew there was still at least one killer loose in the inner courtyards. But who could he be? Cao Cao had decided he would not attack Sun Quan before the council had dealt with this problem once and for all.

Alive (7):
Subotan
A Very Super Market
Beskar
Yaropolk
Joooray
AskthePizzaguy
FactionHeir

Executed (5):
Centurion1 - Mao Jie
Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu
Paulus Tertius - Xun Yu
Death is Yonder - Pang Tong
Sprig - Sima Yi

Assassinated (2):
Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun
atheotes - Jia Xu


Night 6 orders are due in 1 AM GMT, 31st of November / 8 PM EST, 30th of November.

[Askthepizzaguy]

This game has a very interesting set-up... I thought it would be more vanilla than this.

What the heck, and FactionHeir, any explanation for this?

[FactionHeir]

Not really, but Sima Yi fits (I got his name in my results PM), according to wikipedia - though he betrayed them quite a bit later on, way after Cao Cao's death, which makes this particular set up interesting.

I don't have any idea who the last killer is though. What have the investigations resulted in so far?

Now to hope that I don't get attacked again.

[Joooray]

Sorry guys, for missing the last voting round again. I was gone for the weekend and so unable to participate.

[Yaropolk]

From what I recall, Sima Yi was a Machiavellian adviser to Cao Cao, who eventually usurped the throne. However he didn't do that until after Cao Cao's death. Historically he didn't have an accomplice. If I had to fit someone into that role, it would be one of Cao Cao's relatives - maybe Cao Pi, Cao Ren, or Cao Fang ?

[Jolt]

Since some of you might not know who Sun Quan is (As he was most spoken of in last write up, I leave you the wiki article on the eventual battle Yu Jin's trainings are for.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Red_Cliff

[Diana Abnoba]

@ Jolt

Can you put in the list of dead, not just the character name, but if they were town, pro-town, mafia...I'm still trying to keep up with this game (even though I'm dead) along with my other games I'm in, and not knowing the history, the character names alone, well it doesn't help me to know where we stand.
I'm a little lost here, and that would help a lot. Thanks so much.

[Jolt]

I can't do much more than pin the two original Mafiosi (Xu Shu and Pang Tong). The other people assassinated or lynched may or may not be mafiosi, townies or power roles.

[Diana Abnoba]

Okay, I understand, anything will help, thanks.

[Yaropolk]

Ok so to put the history of the battle or red cliffs in lamens terms:

3 factions:

Wei (led by Cao Cao)
Shu (led by Liu Bei)
Wu (led by Sun Quan)


4 sentence battle summary:

Cao Cao sails a superior force to attack an alliance of Liu Bei and Sun Quan. Liu Bei's adviser Zhuge Liang predicts that there will be a wind storm on the day of the battle and the allies decide to take advantage of it. Before the battle, Sun Quan's strategist Pang Tong pretends to defect to Cao Cao. The night before the planned battle, Cao Cao's men are seasick so he ties together all his ships to prevent rocking on Pang Tong's advice. During the night, Sun Quan's field commander Zhou Yu sends his leutenant Huang Gai to fake a surrender. Huang Gai sails his ships which have been secretly loaded with incendiary devices for Cao Cao's chained armada. When he is allowed to approach, he sets his ships alight and crashes into Cao Cao's armada. Fanned by the wind storm, the fire incinirates half the troops and Huang Gai brings down a general ass whooping on the Wei army. Cao Cao's army turns tail and runs, pursued by allied troops. Commander Cao Ren stays behind and holds back the pursuers allowing the rest of Cao Cao's army to escape.

Major known players:

Cao Cao's WEI army:
-- Sima Yi, main adviser
-- Cao Ren, minor commander who saved the day

Sun Quan's WU army:
-- Zhou Yu, field commander for the allied forces
-- Pang Tong, faked defection, chained ships together
-- Huang Gai, faked defection, started ship fire

Liu Bei's SHU army:
-- Zhuge Liang, main adviser, predicted a wind storm on the night of the attacks, led his division to steal Wei's arrow supplies the night before the battle
-- Guan Yu, bearded brawler who kicks ass and takes names



People executed so far:

Centurion1 - Mao Jie - WEI, minor character, loyalty never in doubt.
Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu - SHU - minor advisor who crossed sides from Shu to Wei, at battle of Red Cliff he saw through Pang Tong's charade, but decided to switch sides to Shu rather than alert Cao Cao
Paulus Tertius - Xun Yu - WEI, minor advisor opposed Cao Cao's power moves historically, could be traitor power role
Death is Yonder - Pang Tong - WU (nicknamed Young Phoenix, so probably main Mafioso of this game) - major advisor for Wu, pretended to defect to Cao Cao before Red Cliffs
Sprig - Sima Yi - WEI - Cao Cao's Machiovellian adviser. Eventually usurped the power for his own descendants.

Assassinated (2):
Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun - Major general under Cao Cao, loyalty never in doubt, possibly a power role.
atheotes - Jia Xu - Cao Cao's advisor, loyalty never in doubt

Alive:
Faction Heir - Xu Chu - Cao Cao's body guard, very strong, but simple minded, loyalty never in doubt

I am convinced that Huang Gai would have to be the other man sent by Sun Quan. The only thing that has me concerned is that last round Sima Yi was cooperating with a second man. Historically Sima Yi did not colalborate with foreign forces. This makes me wonder if this is just some power role condition that emerged during the game or if I'm missing something.

For any investigators out there, here is a nice summary of characters by faction in case you aren't sure who you are investigating:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ors_characters

[Sprig]

And look at that, you killed Cao Cao's main advisor and investigator on the word of a simple man. Nice!

[seireikhaan]

[FactionHeir]

So far I take it ATPG and Sprig have been working together one of them presumably a detective and the other his investigee.
I'm interested what your investigations have found so far and who you shared them with.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You guys do realize I was claiming detective to distract the mafia and make them target me, right?

I mean I'd continue the charade but it's already been posted in the thread. The only people I'd be fooling is my fellow teammates.

[Sprig]

I won't make any comment on ATPG's comments. As for my results, I can not reveal.

[Joooray]

Night 6 orders are due in 1 AM GMT, 31st of November

That day does not exist.

I hope something comes up this night, because I'm once again completely lost at who to suspect.

[Death is yonder]

Dum Dee Dum Dum

Flying under the radar

Oh, there are only two mafia... is it?

That day does not exist.

I hope something comes up this night, because I'm once again completely lost at who to suspect.

Since when were Cao Cao's only enemies in his own faction?



Well.. on the honest townie point of the view, that's a possibility

[Diana Abnoba]

Ok so to put the history of the battle or red cliffs in lamens terms:

3 factions:

Wei (led by Cao Cao)
Shu (led by Liu Bei)
Wu (led by Sun Quan)


4 sentence battle summary:

Cao Cao sails a superior force to attack an alliance of Liu Bei and Sun Quan. Liu Bei's adviser Zhuge Liang predicts that there will be a wind storm on the day of the battle and the allies decide to take advantage of it. Before the battle, Sun Quan's strategist Pang Tong pretends to defect to Cao Cao. The night before the planned battle, Cao Cao's men are seasick so he ties together all his ships to prevent rocking on Pang Tong's advice. During the night, Sun Quan's field commander Zhou Yu sends his leutenant Huang Gai to fake a surrender. Huang Gai sails his ships which have been secretly loaded with incendiary devices for Cao Cao's chained armada. When he is allowed to approach, he sets his ships alight and crashes into Cao Cao's armada. Fanned by the wind storm, the fire incinirates half the troops and Huang Gai brings down a general ass whooping on the Wei army. Cao Cao's army turns tail and runs, pursued by allied troops. Commander Cao Ren stays behind and holds back the pursuers allowing the rest of Cao Cao's army to escape.

Major known players:

Cao Cao's WEI army:
-- Sima Yi, main adviser
-- Cao Ren, minor commander who saved the day

Sun Quan's WU army:
-- Zhou Yu, field commander for the allied forces
-- Pang Tong, faked defection, chained ships together
-- Huang Gai, faked defection, started ship fire

Liu Bei's SHU army:
-- Zhuge Liang, main adviser, predicted a wind storm on the night of the attacks, led his division to steal Wei's arrow supplies the night before the battle
-- Guan Yu, bearded brawler who kicks ass and takes names



People executed so far:

Centurion1 - Mao Jie - WEI, minor character, loyalty never in doubt.
Yaseikhaan - Xu Shu - SHU - minor advisor who crossed sides from Shu to Wei, at battle of Red Cliff he saw through Pang Tong's charade, but decided to switch sides to Shu rather than alert Cao Cao
Paulus Tertius - Xun Yu - WEI, minor advisor opposed Cao Cao's power moves historically, could be traitor power role
Death is Yonder - Pang Tong - WU (nicknamed Young Phoenix, so probably main Mafioso of this game) - major advisor for Wu, pretended to defect to Cao Cao before Red Cliffs
Sprig - Sima Yi - WEI - Cao Cao's Machiovellian adviser. Eventually usurped the power for his own descendants.

Assassinated (2):
Diana Abnoba - Xiahou Dun - Major general under Cao Cao, loyalty never in doubt, possibly a power role.
atheotes - Jia Xu - Cao Cao's advisor, loyalty never in doubt

Alive:
Faction Heir - Xu Chu - Cao Cao's body guard, very strong, but simple minded, loyalty never in doubt

I am convinced that Huang Gai would have to be the other man sent by Sun Quan. The only thing that has me concerned is that last round Sima Yi was cooperating with a second man. Historically Sima Yi did not colalborate with foreign forces. This makes me wonder if this is just some power role condition that emerged during the game or if I'm missing something.

For any investigators out there, here is a nice summary of characters by faction in case you aren't sure who you are investigating:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ors_characters

Thank you so much, this helps a lot!!!

[Sprig]

What mischief did Pang Tong get up too, that I did not foresee... Alas for Tsao Tsao his poor advisor is dead.

[FactionHeir]

How come DiY is alive and dead?

[Sprig]

How come DiY is alive and dead?

Just a mistake, it has been like that for several writeups now.