Netherworld II [Concluded]

[TinCow]

My vote on GH was made before I saw the rest of this conversation; I got the end of page 1 and didn't realize there were more posts. So, I hadn't seen 81+ at the time of my vote. Having now read them, I do not want to participate in a bandwagon on GH.

Unvote: GH; Vote: YLC

For anyone thinking Sasaki is scummy, I would like to point out that he's totally missed the fact that W_E was dead and has pursued GH without apparently noticing this. This indicates he hasn't paid attention to the night write-up.

[ULC]

Oh, I have a counter, I just don't feel like using it. Why waste it, after all? Your original accusation on me was WIFOM by nature and therefore ultimately meaningless. After all, I could simply say that your read of me is incorrect and that, were I a mafioso, would have acted differently in such a situation.

What a lovely little roasted marshmellow you have written, all fluff and no filling. Play the pufferfish more with empty sounding defense? If my accusations are baseless, why defend against them - I am the only one accusing you, yet for some reason you are forced to respond? Why reason with the unreasonable, when you know it gets you caught in circles? Why so defensive?

My vote on GH was made before I saw the rest of this conversation; I got the end of page 1 and didn't realize there were more posts. So, I hadn't seen 81+ at the time of my vote. Having now read them, I do not want to participate in a bandwagon on GH.

Unvote: GH; Vote: YLC

For anyone thinking Sasaki is scummy, I would like to point out that he's totally missed the fact that W_E was dead and has pursued GH without apparently noticing this. This indicates he hasn't paid attention to the night write-up.

You voted GH why in the first place? And I didn't call for a bandwagon on GH at all.

And that is total WIFOM, and you know it. I could vote for the dead too if you want - I suppose that must mean I did not read the night write-up.

[TinCow]

You voted GH why in the first place? And I didn't call for a bandwagon on GH at all.

As I stated, I think those targets were picked by an experienced player, not a new player. GH was just the first person that came to mind.

And that is total WIFOM, and you know it. I could vote for the dead too if you want - I suppose that must mean I did not read the night write-up.

WIFOM on Day 1? OH NOES!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

My bad. I totally missed that white eyes was one of the two kills. I should read more carefully. Not that my mistake means I'm innocent at all, of course.

[Askthepizzaguy]

My bad. I totally missed that white eyes was one of the two kills. I should read more carefully. Not that my mistake means I'm innocent at all, of course.

You guys don't fully appreciate this man, I fear.

[Diamondeye]

Unvote:Seon Vote: YLC

While all this "veterans buddying up and talking in so much detail that the rest of people can't follow"-stuff is all very funny, I don't see you throwing any votes, gentlemen. Backing these accusations of each other with votes would make them seem vaguely more serious.

[ULC]

Unvote:Seon Vote: YLC

While all this "veterans buddying up and talking in so much detail that the rest of people can't follow"-stuff is all very funny, I don't see you throwing any votes, gentlemen. Backing these accusations of each other with votes would make them seem vaguely more serious.

I have - long ago unvoted Seon and placed it on what I believe is the best first round lynch, GH. Kill me next round if you do not believe me, but I guarantee results if either TC or GH dies today.

[ULC]

As I stated, I think those targets were picked by an experienced player, not a new player. GH was just the first person that came to mind.



WIFOM on Day 1? OH NOES!

GH was the first player on your mind? Why not Sasaki? ATPG? Sigurd? Dear scottishranger? Why not even Beskar? Or even me? What made GH so special?

Day 1 WIFOM is perfectly understandable, when it is used to accuse someone. It doesn't make a lot of sense when used defensively, and for another persons life, especially one that you haven't a stake in, and it can easily be disproven.

[TinCow]

GH was the first player on your mind? Why not Sasaki? ATPG? Sigurd? Dear scottishranger? Why not even Beskar? Or even me? What made GH so special?

I have a mancrush on him.

[ULC]

I have a mancrush on him.

I suppose you do then, with the way your behavior has been - lackluster and not player of the year material at all. Where is the old TinCow? Can I get him in exchange of this one?

How about one that knows he has no defense for defending GH by trying to use Sasaki as a distraction, knowing people will pick on his faulty logic? Why do we need to stop looking at GH, TC? I know you can answer my question.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Ooooooh I smell a rumble... *gets out the popcorn*

[TinCow]

How about one that knows he has no defense for defending GH by trying to use Sasaki as a distraction, knowing people will pick on his faulty logic? Why do we need to stop looking at GH, TC? I know you can answer my question.

Please explain how I defended GH; I was not aware that I had ever done so. Nor am I aware of ever saying we should stop looking at GH. Are you intentionally twisting my words, or are you just being careless?

[GeneralHankerchief]

How about one that knows he has no defense for defending GH by trying to use Sasaki as a distraction, knowing people will pick on his faulty logic? Why do we need to stop looking at GH, TC? I know you can answer my question.

Please explain how TinCow defended me; he was not aware that he had ever done so. Nor is he aware of ever saying we should stop looking at me. Are you intentionally twisting his words, or are you just being careless?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I am not sure I agree wholeheartedly with your logic regarding who murdered you and why. Was Andres even here and active at the time? As for me, I am begging your indulgence to just trust me that I didn't murder you. Give me a round of benefit of the doubt, or just for the sake of argument.

Sasaki could have avoided killing you, but that smacks of cowardice. Frankly I think they gave it to AVSM so that it would mess with our brains. But we got AVSM right away, didn't we?

I could make your case in-thread, but I feel you're the best qualified person. I consider Andres' contributions to be lackluster this game. I don't think he was even here to do the murders. I think he skipped out to avoid detection. Tincow and GH are high on my list, but GH sounds like he's the detective or the spokesman for the detective, and as such, he's out. YLC has been revealed, so it's not possible for him to have done it. Chaotix, it's possible...

My next top suspect is actually splitpersonality.

Who are you even talking to? This makes no sense.

[Andres]

Who are you even talking to? This makes no sense.

Let's see:

a) it's new year, so many people are now suffering from a hang-over;
b) it's day 1 in a large mafia game
c) something else
d) some other stuff
e) nonsense

And you expect him to make sense?



Unvote : Sigurd; Vote : Sasaki


For expecting people to make sense.

And there are five good reasons to make that vote, so don't say that I'm not making sense here!

[Thermal]

vote: winston hughes

Not only unusual kill choices, but a dead khazzar, which is a player winston hughes always votes for, in other mafia games at least.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Let's see:

a) it's new year, so many people are now suffering from a hang-over;
b) it's day 1 in a large mafia game
c) something else
d) some other stuff
e) nonsense

And you expect him to make sense?



Unvote : Sigurd; Vote : Sasaki


For expecting people to make sense.

And there are five good reasons to make that vote, so don't say that I'm not making sense here!

I saw this before you edited out the picture. For shame Andres, for shame.

[ULC]

Who are you even talking to? This makes no sense.

I honestly do not understand why you posted this from another thread in here.

[Diamondeye]

Okay, unvote:YLC. I'm giving you the benefit of doubt. vote:GH

[GeneralHankerchief]

I honestly do not understand why you posted this from another thread in here.

You respond to Sasaki's post, which came chronologically after mine, before you come to my post, which was addressed directly at you.


You[']r[e] trying to avoid me, Mr.[YLC], and my reasoning - why?

[Askthepizzaguy]

For anyone thinking Sasaki is scummy, I would like to point out that he's totally missed the fact that W_E was dead and has pursued GH without apparently noticing this. This indicates he hasn't paid attention to the night write-up.

*waves his hand dismissively*

BAH, he is acting like he doesn't know what's going on. And, for no reason other than because he is Sasaki, and he can. It's how he has fun, in my opinion. At worst, he was doing it so that someone could use the very reasoning you just used to "clear" him, which is kind of lame as Sasaki strategies go. He's better than that.... I hope.

[Kralizec]

My vote on GH was made before I saw the rest of this conversation; I got the end of page 1 and didn't realize there were more posts. So, I hadn't seen 81+ at the time of my vote. Having now read them, I do not want to participate in a bandwagon on GH.


For anyone thinking Sasaki is scummy, I would like to point out that he's totally missed the fact that W_E was dead and has pursued GH without apparently noticing this. This indicates he hasn't paid attention to the night write-up.

(bolded vote removed to prevent miscounts)

Why would you point out something that obvious in Sasaki's defense?

But on that topic, it's slightly odd that Sasaki paid attention to the posts after the night write-up, and not to the night write-up itself. Of course, it goes without saying that if he's not mafia and hasn't read the write-up he wouldn't have known that white_eyes was dead *looks suspiciously*

[ULC]

Why would you point out something that obvious in Sasaki's defense?

But on that topic, it's slightly odd that Sasaki paid attention to the posts after the night write-up, and not to the night write-up itself. Of course, it goes without saying that if he's not mafia and hasn't read the write-up he wouldn't have known that white_eyes was dead *looks suspiciously*

Thus - Sasaki read the night write up and is screwing around, TC is defending him needlessly, GH is panicking and trying to defend himself when he should he does not need to.

Kind of adds up - I'd be the type to hunt down the veterans at this point. Immunity to death usually allows them to be much more productive instead of trying to form secret alliances.

[Andres]

My vote on GH was made before I saw the rest of this conversation; I got the end of page 1 and didn't realize there were more posts. So, I hadn't seen 81+ at the time of my vote. Having now read them, I do not want to participate in a bandwagon on GH.

Unvote: GH; Vote: YLC

For anyone thinking Sasaki is scummy, I would like to point out that he's totally missed the fact that W_E was dead and has pursued GH without apparently noticing this. This indicates he hasn't paid attention to the night write-up.

Why the need for such a thorough explanation for unvoting GH?

[TinCow]

Why the need for such a thorough explanation for unvoting GH?

I anticipated that there would be questions about why I was reversing my vote so quickly. I decided to preempt the inquisition.

[Andres]

I anticipated that there would be questions about why I was reversing my vote so quickly. I decided to preempt the inquisition.

I see.