Praetorian Stamina less than regular Legionaires?

[bobbin]

So I would think, but I have consitently seen my Triarii tire on perfectly flat ground. Yes, flat - I marched my perfectly rested Triarii through Greek settlements enough times to consistently observe them tire, even when they never engage anyone. And a settlement is the definition of absolutely flat (but not the barbarian ones, of course).

I tested Polybian Triarii on the Grassy Flatland map and they didn't tire, i marched them from one end on the map to the other and back again and they stayed "fresh" the whole way. Maybe its something to do with moving through cities?

[ARCHIPPOS]

Even some arrow fire means they are "in-fighting" condition...

Shooting arrows WILL tire your archer units even when they're stationary (just thought it's worth mentioning/reminding).

[Cute Wolf]

Shooting arrows WILL tire your archer units even when they're stationary (just thought it's worth mentioning/reminding).

I'm not talk about the archers who doing that shooting... I means unit under arrow fire (from wall towers and scattered enemies) do become tired because everytime one of them got a hit, they will assume "ready to fight" stance.

[ARCHIPPOS]

I'm not talk about the archers who doing that shooting... I means unit under arrow fire (from wall towers and scattered enemies) do become tired because everytime one of them got a hit, they will assume "ready to fight" stance.

i understood what you meant ... my point is that the guys shooting at your boys get tired too :)

[Cute Wolf]

i understood what you meant ... my point is that the guys shooting at your boys get tired too :)

City tower never tired
Add the fact that we have no rational cost onagerrs in EB

[Ludens]

I've often wondered myself if they calculate individually too . I think they do in Empire {not certain mind , but I get that impression from modding around in it} but I have no idea if they do so in Rome .

I seem to recall that fatigue was calculated on unit basis in R:TW 1.0, leading to units tiring quickly from one or two men joining combat. That was changed in later patch.

I'm pretty certain armour doesn't make a difference , but I'm not certain even the current C/A development team remember all the different stuff they put in {and which is active or not} so who knows ?

Armour did make a difference in original M:TW, when fighting in the desert. Doesn't R:TW use stat_heat for this?

I'm not talk about the archers who doing that shooting... I means unit under arrow fire (from wall towers and scattered enemies) do become tired because everytime one of them got a hit, they will assume "ready to fight" stance.

Interesting, I didn't know that

[Cute Wolf]

Interesting, I didn't know that

You can took an evidence when an unit get some of their men get an arrow (even when it wasn't cause any death), the animation and comments changed into "ready" stat..... you can look at their raised shield and ter to neat up their formations... actually, I got this conclusion just recently, when testing unit balance on my mod...

[vartan]

Thanks for your test results Cute Wolf, you rock. That's exactly what I was looking for.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Even some arrow fire means they are "in-fighting" condition...

No, it is different.

I'm not talk about the archers who doing that shooting... I means unit under arrow fire (from wall towers and scattered enemies) do become tired because everytime one of them got a hit, they will assume "ready to fight" stance.

Yes, I always knew this. Yes, they do go into the 'Ready' stance and pull their shields in. Yes. But they do not tire. Test it yourself.

Armour did make a difference in original M:TW, when fighting in the desert. Doesn't R:TW use stat_heat for this?

It does indeed. There are stats for heat and cold (and forest too). All are modifiers, not primary stats

Interesting, I didn't know that

You are correct, you did not know that. Why? Because it is not true...

You can took an evidence when an unit get some of their men get an arrow (even when it wasn't cause any death), the animation and comments changed into "ready" stat..... you can look at their raised shield and ter to neat up their formations... actually, I got this conclusion just recently, when testing unit balance on my mod...

Once again, I always knew this, as I am a big fan of zooming in for the eyecandy at all times (at the cost of spending more time in the 'pause' mode than in real-time . But the units do not get tired.


Shoot, I will test it this Friday or so and tell you Perhaps you are correct, but I doubt it.

I tested Polybian Triarii on the Grassy Flatland map and they didn't tire, i marched them from one end on the map to the other and back again and they stayed "fresh" the whole way. Maybe its something to do with moving through cities?

Yes, I do not believe this applies to Polybians - I have only seen the Camillian Triarii do it. I could easily be wrong in this case, because Triarii tiring from walking does not make much sense to me either.

[Cute Wolf]

Test it yourself? I allready test that

Walking under arrow fire, even with no casualities... will definitely drain stamina for "non-hardy" troopers... well, next time I'll give a screenie....

[Rahwana]

Test it yourself? I allready test that

Walking under arrow fire, even with no casualities... will definitely drain stamina for "non-hardy" troopers... well, next time I'll give a screenie....

Minor nitpick to our unit balance test: Unit under fire only tired IF THEY WALK, and UNDER FIRE

This was allready proved....