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    Quote Originally Posted by fraoula View Post
    Of course they were not penetrated by Alexander. I said "conquered" because they accepted Alexander as their conqueror-liberator pretty much like the Judeans or the Egyptians.
    However they do not give orders in Greek. If you select the Gen. Bodyguard they speak in Persian(?) even after the Pontikoi Strategoi reform. Same for the Armenians altough that is not wrong.
    Yes it is wrong. Armenians are not Persian, and do not speak Farsi. Armenians speak Armenian, which is an independent branch of the Indo-European language tree, with the closest relative being Greek. The reason they speak Farsi in the game, is because it is a place holder until We finish off an Armenian voice mod (which foot and I had been working on before EB1 was released)

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    Quote Originally Posted by artavazd View Post
    Yes it is wrong. Armenians are not Persian, and do not speak Farsi. Armenians speak Armenian, which is an independent branch of the Indo-European language tree, with the closest relative being Greek. The reason they speak Farsi in the game, is because it is a place holder until We finish off an Armenian voice mod (which foot and I had been working on before EB1 was released)
    Arto have you two finished that by the way? I was wondering if it was going to be released...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vartan View Post
    Arto have you two finished that by the way? I was wondering if it was going to be released...
    most likely for EB2

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    most likely for EB2
    Thanks axper. Looking forward to it. (It's about time we hear something familiar xD )
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    Quote Originally Posted by vartan View Post
    Thanks axper. Looking forward to it. (It's about time we hear something familiar xD )
    I know. I just dont want people on this forum to be mislead and think that the Farsi (language of the Persians) is the native tounge of Armenians. Hopefuly people read my post and understand that it is just a placeholder :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by artavazd View Post
    I know. I just dont want people on this forum to be mislead and think that the Farsi (language of the Persians) is the native tounge of Armenians. Hopefuly people read my post and understand that it is just a placeholder :)
    Oops. My bad. Thanks for the clarification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artavazd View Post
    most likely for EB2
    aye! what would it be, grakan, ashkharabar? or can you make it grabar by any chance?

    vartan, why do you write axper, when it should be akhper? just curios. i've seen that the same way nakharar, gets written as naxarar. that make things more confusing for those who dont speak the language and isnt correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkiss View Post
    vartan, why do you write axper, when it should be akhper? just curios. i've seen that the same way nakharar, gets written as naxarar. that make things more confusing for those who dont speak the language and isnt correct.
    It is for those that speak. I don't direct my transliteration at non-Hayeren speakers. And the c represents ts, and x represents kh, and so on. Armenian speakers have no problem recognizing this, and this is the most common form of IM for us online. It's no problem though, as it is by and for Armenian speakers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarkiss View Post
    aye! what would it be, grakan, ashkharabar? or can you make it grabar by any chance?

    vartan, why do you write axper, when it should be akhper? just curios. i've seen that the same way nakharar, gets written as naxarar. that make things more confusing for those who dont speak the language and isnt correct.
    By grakan, u mean Grapar (Classical). Well I dont know Classical Armenian. Its like what Latin is to Italian. Most likely itll be in modern Armenian

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    Quote Originally Posted by artavazd View Post
    By grakan, u mean Grapar (Classical). Well I dont know Classical Armenian. Its like what Latin is to Italian. Most likely itll be in modern Armenian
    No problem with that. Just find someone who speaks Eastern Armenian and you're set (of course, because of the adaptation of the unaspirated consonant sounds from the surrounding Caucasians that was complete by the time of EB).
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    - Dominion of the Sword (Armenian linguistics/history, videographer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vartan View Post
    No problem with that. Just find someone who speaks Eastern Armenian and you're set (of course, because of the adaptation of the unaspirated consonant sounds from the surrounding Caucasians that was complete by the time of EB).
    I speak Eastern Armenian. Well unaspirated consonant sounds exist in classical Armenian, independent of its existence in Caucasian languages. The Western Armenian dialect (in which unaspirated consonants dont exist) was formed much later during the Cilician period. Western Armenian can be looked at as the latinization of the Armenian language (Cilician Armenia had a lot of contact with the Crusaders).

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    Quote Originally Posted by artavazd View Post
    By grakan, u mean Grapar (Classical). Well I dont know Classical Armenian. Its like what Latin is to Italian. Most likely itll be in modern Armenian
    thats good enough:-)

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