To buy or not to buy?

[Fisherking]

Yes gollum, the game has been out a whole two weeks and there are 5 pages of Released Mods in that forum.

Also Skott, for once CA released a product with no killer bugs in it. At least nothing we have never seen before.

The biggest gripes are with the spies being able to kill off to many generals and that the Old Guard has a visor on their Bear Skin Hats, that belonged to the French Foot Artillery.

But never fear, there are already mine mods to cure both of those problems and much, much more.

For once CA put out a good product on release.

It is their own fault from past practices if there are a large number of people who are too gun-shy to jump in just yet.

But in the end I think this game could restore a bit of confidence in CA. The game is as good as advertised for once. And I think most people will come around.

It is what ever comes after that I might be cautious of.

[antisocialmunky]

Yes gollum, the game has been out a whole two weeks and there are 5 pages of Released Mods in that forum.

Also Skott, for once CA released a product with no killer bugs in it. At least nothing we have never seen before.

The biggest gripes are with the spies being able to kill off to many generals and that the Old Guard has a visor on their Bear Skin Hats, that belonged to the French Foot Artillery.

But never fear, there are already mine mods to cure both of those problems and much, much more.

For once CA put out a good product on release.

It is their own fault from past practices if there are a large number of people who are too gun-shy to jump in just yet.

But in the end I think this game could restore a bit of confidence in CA. The game is as good as advertised for once. And I think most people will come around.

It is what ever comes after that I might be cautious of.

This thread should have had price points. As of now there is no way to capture if someone is being cheap or the game is bad.

[vartan]

30 USD for Imperial Edition? What in the world...

The 40/50 USD this game demanded was a waste of money. I feel no replay value and am biased as the era is my least favorite (I don't appreciate the cowardly approach that comes with ranged firepower, as is the case even today, with ammunition of all kinds). Then again, I was open-minded enough to try the darn thing. I am being vague, but the game did not feel satisfying enough. It was in some ways not fulfilling. Perhaps it is the way the campaigns are set up. Each battle seems too similar. Every faction seems to me similar as well, but then again, this is to be expected some, as the wars were fought on the same continent. I don't know really. I suppose the stand-alone didn't really feel like a stand-alone!

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[AussieGiant]

I've said before in the "First Impressions" thread that it's a much better product than E:TW. I think they are onto something with the drop in battles. CA's best move now would be to perfect the online campaign technology because it would solve the whole AI issue!!

[antisocialmunky]

I had a gift card and this was the version that hte best buy person handed me(someone was too lazy to update the display and and I found that this 'Limited' version contained all the Steam Imperial Version units). I dunno, the Napoleonic era isn't particularly that intersting to me either but I think the game itself is enjoyable. Hopefully they can as bugfixes will be somewhat minimal. It is a good game, if they had modding support, it would be totally awesome.(WW1 mod with Armenian minifaction?) AI is passable and most game breaking bugs are fixed. Drop-in battles are a very nice feature that hte game should have had since forever.

Congrats CA for finally releasing a respectable product.

[vartan]

(WW1 mod with Armenian minifaction?)

I will slap you.

Drop-in battles are lovely, but I don't see how or why the company would want to try and extend that to multiplayer campaigns. These could take forever to complete, especially when time zone differences are taken into account.

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[antisocialmunky]

Yeah, the drop in battles have always made more sense.

Also, what's wrong with paiting the Ottoman Empire that shade of light blue?

[Galain_Ironhide]

For once CA put out a good product on release.

Yes, however isn't NTW kinda a reworked and rebadged Empire? It was a second attempt.

I'm one of those gun-shy types. Plus my computer needs some serious upgrading before I purchase this game or ETW.

[Fisherking]

Napoleon is Empire as it should have been.

Empire was a good game with terrible bugs. Most of those have been fixed and another patch is in testing.

NTW is streamlined and has a narrower scope but it has exultant game play and battles. It is also The Game for any Multiplayer Enthusiasts.

You can run a Single Player Campaign but fight every battle with a human opponent if you choose or play MP Campaigns.

The game is almost bug free. There are a couple of features that I am not totally happy with but that could just be my taste.

I do understand gun-shy. I might still be sitting it out if I hadn’t gotten it as a present but to me it is the best game since MTW.

I think it is the very best of any of their 3d games.

NTW runs on almost anything with dual core and a good graphics card...unlike Empire that was pretty temperamental.

When to upgrade and how much is your choice but NTW is a darn good game.

[Vlad Tzepes]

I'm glad to see people are happy with NTW. It gives me courage - I'm still traumathized after the buggy ETW release. I'll get NTW... at some point.

[Servius]

I haven't responded to the poll since I haven't bought or tried NTW yet, but I wanted to see what players thought. I've bought every TW game since Shogun (though none of the RTW expansions nor that Spartan experiment), and while I think Empire made huge leaps in interface, tooltips, trade, agents, a technology tree, and many other aspects, the Campaign AI and Diplomatic AI were still completely stupid, and in a primarily single-player, turn-based, strategy game, the AI is 60% of the experience.

What I've heard is that the AI is no better than in ETW, the scope is tiny, there's little replay value (because of the limited scope), and it's $40. I might get this when it's $10, or maybe $15 if there's no shipping charge.

[vartan]

I might get this when it's $10, or maybe $15 if there's no shipping charge.

Let me know when pigs fly, k? Sorry. But it really took half a decade before Rome:Total War was transferred over to Steam and sold along with both of its expansions for $9.99 (USD).