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    Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum!
    I know something more about EB and campaigns and I want to make a totaly historical campaign with Rome.
    First I want to know if this composition of army is historical: 4 hastati, 4 principes and 4 triarii....the rest i know what to put.
    My question is if I should train 2 triatii or 4( i saw somewhere that only 2 triarii)? Oh and if someone could give me a link or something with the cities and the years when i need to conquer, atack them.

    PS:english isn't my native language and if i did mistakes pls forgive me:D
    Any answer will be apreciatee....even u say that i'm ''faggot''

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    3 answers... first, Welcome to the Forum,
    second, no, you're not a faggot, nobody here is,
    and third, it's 2 triarii, as they're half the numbers of principes... for the exact date of every city, there's a thread with a complete guide with dates on this forum... just look a bit! good luck in your campain! if it goes well, you could do an AAR with it! if you don't know what's an AAR, well, on the forums there's the thread in the sticky : gameplay guide and AARs, so read some to give you ideeas... good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duguntz View Post
    for the exact date of every city, there's a thread with a complete guide with dates on this forum... just look a bit!
    I believe it's this one .Welcome to the org and see you around :)
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    It's exactly that! Thanks Archippos! Well, cosmyn, you have the tools for your conquest. Now, show that you have the brain and commanding talent (or the right cheats... :) )
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    I'd also recommend this thread, as it provides a lot of good tips for playing the Romani in a historically-accurate fashion:

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=101787

    Although I have to say I'd ignore the advice on Marian unit composition - way too many primae cohortes for my tastes.

    Also good is Konny's Italian Allies mod ( https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=102115 ) - it allows you to represent the allies in the Camillan era more accurately, as they get their own troops which are similar to, but distinct from those of Rome. -M
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    I see all your questions have been answered already by other helpful members, well all I can say then is:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duguntz View Post
    3 answers... first, Welcome to the Forum,
    and third, it's 2 triarii, as they're half the numbers of principes...
    I thought making the triarii contingent half the size as the principes and hastati was an innovation that came with the Polybian reforms? As far as I know, in the Camillian era, the triarii contingent of a legion was the same size as the hastati and principes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulceber View Post
    I'd also recommend this thread, as it provides a lot of good tips for playing the Romani in a historically-accurate fashion:

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=101787

    Although I have to say I'd ignore the advice on Marian unit composition - way too many primae cohortes for my tastes.

    Also good is Konny's Italian Allies mod ( https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=102115 ) - it allows you to represent the allies in the Camillan era more accurately, as they get their own troops which are similar to, but distinct from those of Rome. -M
    No slight on Konny, but he does romantisize about the Romans a bit; they were not very nice to the conquered population at all and if I remember correctly he claims they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macilrille View Post
    No slight on Konny, but he does romantisize about the Romans a bit
    Hmm...why would someone ROMANtisize about the ROMANs?! =]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duguntz View Post
    It's exactly that! Thanks Archippos! Well, cosmyn, you have the tools for your conquest. Now, show that you have the brain and commanding talent (or the right cheats... :) )
    Thx guys for all the answers!
    Welll romans never cheat....they conquer everything;) If my campaign goes well I will do an AAR. Now I'm playing with AS cuz i like their units (those cool armored ninjas with long spears) Oh and to have a historical campaign how should be the setting for difficulty: H/M ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmyn12 View Post
    Thx guys for all the answers!
    Welll romans never cheat....they conquer everything;) If my campaign goes well I will do an AAR. Now I'm playing with AS cuz i like their units (those cool armored ninjas with long spears) Oh and to have a historical campaign how should be the setting for difficulty: H/M ?
    Haaa, a real one! Sweboz neither never cheat! it's a too sweet music to hear the pain of the ennemies! maybe my warbands will meet your legions on the MP battlefield someday!

    i play on H/M... some people say that vH/M is the best, but on VH, the diplomacy is... innexistant... they will still refuse as cease fire evenm if you besiege their last cities with 3 full armies while they have 3 defender... and they're women coz the males died in the last battle... so i prefer H/M (no wrong intended against women here! as the saying goes, 10 women would defeat 100 men... from the top of a wall!)
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    I'd wish to kick your German ass :)) ;)

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    OH... OH... OH...Last roman that tried to come and take the strawberries in my dense forest... well didn't cameback! I don't know why, legions have a tendency to... dissapear, when they approach my Gawjam (Village) ;)
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    than come to fight in a open plain....not in shade or forest ;)

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    Ya know, the soft ground of the forest is easier to dig agfter the battle, to burry the romans! if your legions are so mighty... don't do as the historic emperors and generals, and cross the Rein river, pas threw the forests, and when half of your back guard army will have been clubed before you could remark it, that'll mean you found me!
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    nNo. I wouldn't do that! I will pay other factions to kick your ass ( like aedui or .....Sarmatians or Getai)

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    .... Yeah, like any real roman! don't worry, aftyer destroyed their petty warbands, I'll come to find you, by a mighty migration army just like the cimbrii and Teutones did... but instead of going to Gaul, I'll come to knock on the door of your villa, in Roma!
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    yeah....but at my house it will be the pretorians...so think again

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    I already rejoice just at the tought of plunder! If you'll excuse me, I have a thirst of blood, so I'll go conquer Barbaropolis (Rome, in common language)... Cheers!
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    you won't make it...:P

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    Please take the banter to the profile pages, guys.
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