StarWars: Return of the Sith [Concluded]

[GeneralHankerchief]

Now you're just repeating yourself.

My accidental double post aside, you're joking again. Play straight with me or you get your wish and I take my vote off Beskar, but I don't think you'll like where it ends up.

[Chaotix]

Well, you ARE going to die, then. Whatever the truth of the matter may be, the town has decided to back Sasaki, and they will most likely continue to do so unless he changes his mind- in that case there will be a split vote between you and Sasaki's new target, and you will probably still be the lucky winner.

[Askthepizzaguy]

My accidental double post aside, you're joking again. Play straight with me or you get your wish and I take my vote off Beskar, but I don't think you'll like where it ends up.

NEVER!!!

I'll defy you all to my last breath. My final words will be screw you!!!

[a completely inoffensive name]

Vote: ATPG I'm going to be vehemently anti leadership this entire game.

[GeneralHankerchief]

NEVER!!!

I'll defy you all to my last breath. My final words will be screw you!!!

Well, you asked for it.

Unvote: Beskar
Vote: ATPG

[Askthepizzaguy]

Satisfied yet, Sasaki?

Not only am I willing to, but I can even make it happen on purpose.

[pevergreen]

I have got to start sleeping less.

For now it does look like Beskar is town aligned, but as I said, if he keeps going down that road of network...
I doubt he would be entirely immune to lynch, so lets not kill him yet.

Vote: ATPG

If he was trying for fun and being right, he would have kept in character. Either way, him going out of character is odd.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dance for me, puppets. Dance for pizzaguy. MWahahahaha

[Chaotix]

Satisfied yet, Sasaki?

Not only am I willing to, but I can even make it happen on purpose.

OH NOES! WE PLAYED DIRECTLY INTER THEIR HANDS!

Look at that! Sasaki asked for ATPG to get himself lynched, and ATPG has nearly succeeded in getting himself lynched while on the pretense of disagreeing with Sasaki and trying to stay alive!

See, I told you. They really are mafia partners.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

He's trying to waste the lynch on Beskar. I thought given the context it was really obvious, and didn't warrant further comment.

What were you thinking the day before:

I say we string him up again tomorrow. This could be a CountArach-in-The Settlement-type deal.

Helpful statement: It would be far simpler to investigate him.

No, I've seen this happen more times in the past than I can count. We kill him now, while he's still in the public view. If he doesn't get lynched next round, he slips away, has plenty of time to work, and then ends up destroying us all in the end. Lynch him tomorrow, get this part of the game over with, and then move on.

And I wouldn't trust any investigations on this role BTW.

Sure, I'll go along with that. And if he turns out to be an innocent, I suppose you'd be willing to die for wasting 2 rounds and possibly a powerful townie role?

If so, you've got my vote, with both possible meanings.

You misunderstand me. I'm not willing to die, period, because that's irresponsible townie behavior. Wasn't this established over a year ago?

I'm willing to admit that I was wrong, yes. Die, no.

Hmm. You're not one to get nervous under such simple pressure, so I'll accept your explanation here for now.

How does this train of thought lead to a GH vote with no reason attached? The vote implies that you think he's scum, and you say he's trying to waste a lynch, which implies the same. But before, you accepted his explanation, and were willing to lynch beskar if GH was willing to be lynched the next day. Which, by the way, is remarkably similar to something you said makes me scum.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally I was trying to get out of the lynch, though. I'm a bit too prideful to turn around and say I'll behave now. So it's pure WIFOM until I die, I'm afraid.

[Askthepizzaguy]

How does this train of thought lead to a GH vote with no reason attached? The vote implies that you think he's scum, and you say he's trying to waste a lynch, which implies the same. But before, you accepted his explanation, and were willing to lynch beskar if GH was willing to be lynched the next day. Which, by the way, is remarkably similar to something you said makes me scum.

I changed my mind. I honestly thought he'd come to his senses. Pizzaguy's prerogative.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You changed your mind but the context was still "really obvious, and didn't warrant further comment"?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: ATPG I'm going to be vehemently anti leadership this entire game.

ACIN, you'll want to vote for Beskar next round. He's trying to set himself up as leader of a massive townie network.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You changed your mind but the context was still "really obvious, and didn't warrant further comment"?

GH was voting for Beskar. I think it is a waste of a lynch, given he just got lynched. So when he did that, I voted him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You guys really think my mafia teammates would let me get away with this nonsense? You can't even stand it as townies with very little to lose. You know if I did this as your partner you'd rip my throat out. Are you just punishing me for not going along with your foolproof plans, or do you really think I behave this way as scum? My mates both freaked when I voted myself in Inishmore. Most freak out when I even mention voting them in a safe situation where I know they won't get lynched. Thinking I am mafia right now is the height of absurdity.

These votes are very simple: you don't like the way I'm playing the game. Fair enough, but that won't catch you any scum.

[GeneralHankerchief]

You guys really think my mafia teammates would let me get away with this nonsense? You can't even stand it as townies with very little to lose. You know if I did this as your partner you'd rip my throat out. Are you just punishing me for not going along with your foolproof plans, or do you really think I behave this way as scum? My mates both freaked when I voted myself in Inishmore. Most freak out when I even mention voting them in a safe situation where I know they won't get lynched. Thinking I am mafia right now is the height of absurdity.

These votes are very simple: you don't like the way I'm playing the game. Fair enough, but that won't catch you any scum.

Originally I was trying to get you out of the lynch, though. I'm a bit too prideful to turn around and say I'll switch my vote now. So it's pure WIFOM until you die, I'm afraid.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Originally I was trying to get you out of the lynch, though. I'm a bit too prideful to turn around and say I'll switch my vote now. So it's pure WIFOM until you die, I'm afraid.

Then my theory is correct. So, you know that you're wasting your lynch, and you're doing it intentionally.

That's actually worse than my own behavior, you know. At least I was trying to WIFOM out of it.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Then my theory is correct. So, you know that you're wasting your lynch, and you're doing it intentionally.

That's actually worse than my own behavior, you know. At least I was trying to WIFOM out of it.

I stayed the course. I honestly thought I'd lost my senses. GH's prerogative.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hardy har har.

Well I tried. I'll stop posting now.

G'night folks.

[a completely inoffensive name]

ACIN, you'll want to vote for Beskar next round. He's trying to set himself up as leader of a massive townie network.

Don't think I'm not after him as well. ATPG is my best chance of seeing a top player leave this round, so im joining the party and voting him out. I'll vote for beskar, Sasaki, and anyone else whose post count is outrageous.

[Diana Abnoba]

Okay, this is getting very weird. This all seems like some sort of a set up to me as well. FOS on GH for another wasted lynch on Beskar (a player that (as far as we know) can't be lynched). Not that I fully trust him either, but a lynch won't get rid of him, so what is the point. FOS on Sasaki for out of the blue coming up with hey Pizza why don't you lynch yourself, to prove that you are town. He hasn't done that move for some time (mainly because we all hated it, so it never works for him anymore). Then finally FOS on Pizza for the knee jerk reaction you gave to Sasaki. You are MUCH better at this my dear, so for me to hear such a temper tantrum (sorry) type of defense from you makes my very suspicious of you. Although I can understand getting frustrated when every game your in, you either get killed, lynched, investigated, blocked...before round 3. There is too much metagaming lately, but in the early rounds town has no clues, so we jump on anything that moves (as you have stated), and I'm sorry dear, you moved like a fish out of water. You did take it down a notch after a time, can't really tell if that was because you calmed down, or you saw that, that approach wasn't working. Also I agree that, that would be a very bold (some might say insane) move, to start something with your mafia partner this early, but you are not the ordinary player (this is a compliment) and have some very inventive ways of playing.

Not really sure what to conclude from all this, so for now, I will not vote, need to think on this some more.

[Choxorn]

Just as an off-topic question the noobish me needs answering: What does "FoS" mean?

[/choxorn the lurker goes to bed]

[johnhughthom]

Finger of Suspicion

[Kagemusha]

Guys.Im thinking you are suffering from SAKA = Sasaki, Kage syndrome. Sasaki you are focusing too heavily on ATPG, just because you think ATPG was able to slip pass radar in another game and now you want to ensure that doesnt happen again. Sasaki you should be more carefull with the wagons you start. I dont have anything personally against Beskar either.But i found his approach on the game being scummy as heck. We should be lynching players that act scummy, not players that are potentially dangerous. In that case for example Sasaki and ATPG should be lynched on the first rounds on each game they play, which sounds too boring tactics to bare.

[Subotan]

I don't mind the "praise" if you can call it that, I mind being lynched when I am innocent.

In other news, the Pope likes being called a Catholic.

Seriously Pizza, this is terrible arguing. You're dimissing everything without addressing the concerns that we have about you. Given that a likely game mechanic is that the Sith Master can choose an apprentice, an ATPG-Sasaki mafioso team is more likely than other possible combinations. The comments which have been made by you and Sasaki do nothing to dismiss my concern for the likelihood that such a team is a reality.

Vote:ATPG

OH NOES! WE PLAYED DIRECTLY INTER THEIR HANDS!

Dun dun DUNNNNN

Tricked again by the almighty ATPG. Rats.

Finger of Suspicion

Which is a less severe version of HoS, Hand of Suspicion.

[Andres]

I don't think Sasaki's logic holds with respect to Atpg being bad, but I don't think it's scummy behavior on his part. I was considering this vote yesterday, and with no new leads will return to it. vote:white_eyes.

Could you be so kind to explain your vote on White_Eyes:D ?

I have got to start sleeping less.

For now it does look like Beskar is town aligned, but as I said, if he keeps going down that road of network...
I doubt he would be entirely immune to lynch, so lets not kill him yet.

Vote: ATPG

If he was trying for fun and being right, he would have kept in character. Either way, him going out of character is odd.

Hmmm...

ATPG seems off to me.

But I think Beskar is a better lynch candidate.

From the latest write-up, it results that our expedition leader has no knowledge about the use of the Force:

As he left the auditorium, he felt panic. The sudden connection with what could only be what had been known as the force in the ancient Jedi religion and 4 murders among the expedition crew, was unsettling. Could it be…?

But apparently, our friendly neighbourhood Sith Lord, Count Dooku, does have knowledge of the Force:

They could see Count Dooku floating silently just outside the barrier, he seemed frozen and lifeless.
They were all about to turn around and leave when the Count twitched. They turned in amazement as they beheld Count Dooku moving his head towards them and smile. He gestured that he wanted to reenter the hangar bay. A few alarmed breath-intakes among the Jedi members announced the presence of Count Dooku reentering he hangar bay.
When he finally stood before them, a little frozen but nonetheless quite healthy, he announced.
“It is a little trick I learned, that’s all. Now, should we continue the search of this ship and get it powered up?"

Our friend Beskar has also been awfully silent and seems to be pleased to just hide himself while others are getting themselves in trouble...

I think Beskar is our Sith Lord. If he survives the lynch, then he's probably unlynchable until his henchmen are lynched (Godfather mechanic with a twist?)

Vote : Beskar

[Sigurd]

Tally

Askthepizzaguy: 8 (ACIN, Csargo, GH, pever, Renata, Sasaki, Subotan, Winston)
Beskar: 3 (Andres, Kage, Yaseikhaan)

White_Eyes:D: 1 (autolycus)
GeneralHankerchief: 1 (Beskar)
Diana Abnoba: 1 (Chaotix)

Announcement:
I am going to accept votes that do not have a preceding unvote. Winston voted WE:D first but then voted ATPG later without unvoting.
It will be too time consuming should I have to search all posts in between to see if he perhaps did a unvote without placing a new vote.

[Winston Hughes]

Could you be so kind to explain your vote on White_Eyes:D ?

In light of the rampaging bandwagon on ATPG, I'm going to go back to voting against White_eyes myself now. However, I would like to see autolycus answer your question before giving any further explanation myself, so that auto can't get away with just repeating my reasons.

Unvote: ATPG; vote: White_eye:D

[Winston Hughes]

I am going to accept votes that do not have a preceding unvote. Winston voted WE:D first but then voted ATPG later without unvoting.
It will be too time consuming should I have to search all posts in between to see if he perhaps did a unvote without placing a new vote.

Yeah, sorry about that. I really should know better by now.