The United Kingdom Elections 2010

[Idaho]

dossn't make them bigots, which the BNP are.

I don't think they are bigots. I think they are generally doddering fools who haven't got a scooby about real politics.

Tories are usually Established Church, Labour are Catholic, and the Lib-Dems are non conformists (and now Atheists).

Eh? The Labour party originated out of the dissenter/methodist/baptist branch of christianity. No idea where you got the idea they were catholics.

[Beskar]

Eh? The Labour party originated out of the dissenter/methodist/baptist branch of christianity. No idea where you got the idea they were catholics.

Used to be different. Labour originated out of socialism and trade-unionism, typically non-religious. Though there was much methodist/etc support.

The Whigs (later Liberals) were for Catholic emancipation.

The Tories come from the more royalist branches, the former cavaliers, the supporters of King Charles during the Civil war, however, the more modern conservatives branched out from the Whig party after the reign of Pitt the Younger. The most amusingly, the most worthwhile thing the Conservatives did was unintentionally expand the vote to all house owners, which gave more power to the working and middle classes in the 1867 second reform act.

[Furunculus]

The most amusing thing the Conservatives did was unintentionally expand the vote to all house owners, which gave more power to the working and middle classes in the 1867 second reform act.

surely you mean "worthwhile"..........?

[Beskar]

surely you mean "worthwhile"..........?

I would said "worthwhile", but they did it unintentionally, which is why i said "amusing" as they did something worthwhile by unintented consequence. But you are correct, I should have used a different word, or even "amusingly worthwhile"

[tibilicus]

A couple of polls from tonight.
YouGov/Sun
CON 35%(nc), LAB 30%(+2), LDEM 24%(-4)

ComRes
CON 37%(nc), LAB 29%(nc), LDEM 26%(nc)

As you can see, if the polls are to be believed, the lib dem surge is collapsing.

[CountArach]

As you can see, if the polls are to be believed, the lib dem surge is collapsing.

If that were true then both polls would have shown it. Drawing too much of a conclusion from one poll is a bad option.

[tibilicus]

If that were true then both polls would have shown it. Drawing too much of a conclusion from one poll is a bad option.

ComRes, Youguv, Opinum and ICM have shown a drop in lib dem support in the past couple of days. A week ago they were polling any where from 28-32%. Whilst it may not seen to significant to see them drop to the 26-28% region I personally still expect that the lib dems will fail to materialise on the support come election day. Don't get me wrong, even if they poll 26%+ it's a fantastic achievement, I just think the dreams of a weak ago where there was talk of the lib dems gaining 90 seats or more wont happen.

Basically I'm of the belief that the support for them is "soft". I think on Thursday they will struggle to gain a uniform swing.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Used to be different. Labour originated out of socialism and trade-unionism, typically non-religious. Though there was much methodist/etc support.

The Whigs (later Liberals) were for Catholic emancipation.

The Tories come from the more royalist branches, the former cavaliers, the supporters of King Charles during the Civil war, however, the more modern conservatives branched out from the Whig party after the reign of Pitt the Younger. The most amusingly, the most worthwhile thing the Conservatives did was unintentionally expand the vote to all house owners, which gave more power to the working and middle classes in the 1867 second reform act.

Disraeli deliberately expanded the franchise, something Palmaston refused to do. Disraeli persuaded the Tories that the new voters would be Tory, but whether he believed that or not remains an unanswered question.

Regarding religion, I was talking more about current trends, Labour has the highest number of Catholics, especially among Blairites.