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    BrownWings: AirViceMarshall Senior Member Furunculus's Avatar
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    Default Re: Dawn of a new EU - European Conservatives and Reformists Group springs into life

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post

    Now, that is how you would do it. You don't kick a wounded animal like you are proposing, it will all blow up in Cameron's face.
    funny, the British electorate might say the same thing.

    first principles; Cameron was elected on a platform to enact those modest changes, and we are now underwriting £13b of bad eurozone debt.

    if we want the following:
    4) Opt out from the charter of fundamental rights
    5) Return of powers over criminal justice
    6) Repatriation of control over social and employment legislation

    then we will bloody well have it. it can be done politely, or it can be done otherwise, the choice is up to the EU, and the blame lies with the EU if they opt for the ugly route.

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    i voted for the following changes:

    1) The referendum lock
    2) A United Kingdom sovereignty bill
    3) A guaranteed say for MP’s if Ministers want the EU to extend its powers
    4) Opt out from the charter of fundamental rights
    5) Return of powers over criminal justice
    6) Repatriation of control over social and employment legislation

    I expect to see them done, as does 37% of the electorate, and the majority of tory MP's, and I am perfectly willing to see the UK go down in financial chaos from a collapsed government if they do not enact that exact plan.
    Last edited by Furunculus; 05-10-2010 at 08:23.
    Furunculus Maneuver: Adopt a highly logical position on a controversial subject where you cannot disagree with the merits of the proposal, only disagree with an opinion based on fundamental values. - Beskar

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