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    Default Re: Nusantara Total War : Portugese Invasion

    BTW, what about this Jawara unit concept (soory if it was a rough pic)..... I think the dual swordsmen animation from some certain mods can be used as reversed grip swordsmen like this... but if the model can't made in reverse grip, then we'll use normal grip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    BTW, what about this Jawara unit concept (soory if it was a rough pic)..... I think the dual swordsmen animation from some certain mods can be used as reversed grip swordsmen like this... but if the model can't made in reverse grip, then we'll use normal grip
    Nusantara Online! its makadga(swordsmen)

    the concept is ahistorical to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by plutoboyz View Post
    Nusantara Online! its makadga(swordsmen)

    the concept is ahistorical to me
    yupz, maybe they are playing RO too many times, so they made that just like an assassin
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    Default Re: Nusantara Total War : Portugese Invasion

    and Wolf, please update your unit description...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic View Post
    yupz, maybe they are playing RO too many times, so they made that just like an assassin
    yep, they forgot bracer, armring, sandal and siger. their samping is not like that, it would limit your movement if you wrap it like that, and the necklace, its for noble.

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    btw, I waiting Tosa's reply on my PM.... we'll have our own forum soon, as discussing everything in 2 thread (in forge and in mod discussion), become less handy... and our dev forum in forumotion is for more private discussion

    anyway, to stop Romaphiloi sonic from whinning about my works, here's the short descriptions about Javanese soldiers:

    Javanese-Sundanese Peasants (sickles) = Tani
    short:
    Villager force, have no formal training in battle, but their sickles is heavy enough to puncture most armour rather easily, and pissed off peasant mob could be more far more dangerous than real fighting force, depends in the right circumstance or leadership!

    Javanese Militia (tombak) = Kroco
    short:
    Kroco forces are commonly drawn fom peasants and urban poors, given cheap spears and mass produced bamboo shields each. For most of the part, they are only told to march and obey simple orders, as their skill with spears is doubtful, and their courage is only marginally better than untrained peasants.

    Javanese Watchmen (archer-golok) = Jogo Karyo
    short:
    Well armed force of militia, equipped with simple bamboo flatbows, and have some martial training to fought in melee effectively with their golok and bamboo shields. These men are common sights in medieval Javanese army, usually serve as front line light infantry.

    Java-Sunda Feudal Spearmen (javelin-overhead tombak) = Prajurit Tumbak
    short:
    These men are flexible line infantry, common rank and file warriors of both Javanese and Sundanese army. They are capable to fight with their tombak spears, and their javelins are handy to soften enemy ranks before the clash.

    Javanese Feudal Swordsmen (parang) = Prajurit Pamedhang
    short:
    Swordsmen are the primary close combat line infantry of the Javanese army. Armed with quality parang longswords, they are capable mount a furious infantry charge to break the enemy line.

    Java-Sunda Feudal Archers (archer-golok) = Prajurit Panah
    short:
    Equipped with good quality helmets, quilted leather armour, and trained in archery. These soldiers are best used as archers, but could fight in melee if necessary, thanks to their heavy equipments.

    Bintara Pikemen (pike-keris) = Tentoro Tumbak Dowo
    short:
    Bintara pikemen mostly comes from the ranks of militia, but they are well trained by muslim Chinese advisors. They won't be easy to break, even when largely outnumbered, as long as their bristling walls of pike could take care most of them.

    Majapahit Axemen (2handed kapak) = Prajurit Kampak Blambangan
    short:
    Vicious shock infantry of the Ancient Majapahit army, armed with two handed axe, and paint their body with pattern made of blood. They are expected to charge and break the enemy line with their sheer strength and vicious intimidation.

    Melayu-Palemb-Bintr Arab Swordsmen (scimitars) = Laskar Arab
    short:
    Arabic troops are no foreigner in the army of the Islamic kingdoms. They are drawn from substantial Arab population, well armoured and equipped in middle eastern style. They are largely disciplined and professional fighting force, as they fought for both common religious cause as well as generous payment.

    Javanese "Saka" Heavy Spearmen (overhead tombakkeris) = Pagerwesi
    short:
    Well armoured heavy infantry, wearing partial plate armour, carying large round shield covered with steel, and armed with exceptional keris-headed tombak spears. These soldiers are best used to fought in very dense formation, capable to grind enemy troops in almost unbreakable wall of steel shields.

    Majapahit Armoured Macemen (gada) = Prajurit Godhowesi
    short:
    Specialist heavy infantry, clad in heavy scale armour, carry large steel covered shield, and armed with godho mace to smash their enemies. These men are de facto cataphracts on foot, and equally capable to break enemy line with a forious charge, or grind enemy troops in very dense formations.

    Javanese Knights / Pendekar (2handed keris swords) = Pandhekar
    short:
    Expert in the field of martial arts, perfected in lifetime training. Pandhekar is easily counted as the best and the most inspiring warriors, as they are often chivalrous warriors, ready to give their life for a good cause. Of course, their large two handed swords are another good reason to respect them.

    Bintara Sultan's Chinese Guards (crossbow-scimitar) = Punggawa Cino
    short:
    These elite soldiers are drawn solely from the ranks of muslim Chinese. Their deeply shared religious passion, coupled with the fact that they are outsider and can't hope to wield the power by themself, made them a respectful, multi purpose elites with their skills in chinese crossbows and scimitars.

    Javanese Noble Knights / Satria (keris panjang) = Satriyo
    short:
    The nobility, who devoted themself in lifetime training of martial arts, are among the most important leading parts of the Javanese army. These men command respect and admiration from their underlings, and given the fact that they are nobles, they also had acess to expensive armoury as well.

    Majapahit Royal Shadowguards (overhead tombakkeris) = Bhayangkara
    short:
    The true elite of Keraton Majapahit, practically fearless, and their martial skills made them command fears in their enemies' hearts. Bhayangkara fought as elite force of guards, capable to grind enemy troops in very dense formations, or spread out and kill multitude of enemies in individual fights.

    Javanese Raider-Scouts (cavarchers-cavshortswords) = Telik Sandi
    short:
    Drawn from the horse owners, Telik Sandi are primarily employed for scout and harassment duties. In the battlefield, it was them who first checked the enemy position, harass and pick off important enemy units and officers with their bows, kill separated and weakned enemy troops, and chase off routers.

    Javanese-Sriwj Feudal Cavalry (cavarchers-cavlswords) = Prajurit Tumpak Jaran
    short:
    Traditionally better segment of Javanese file soldiers, reasonably well armoured, and capable in both role as horse archers and heavy close combat cavalry. These men are important offensive parts of Majapahit-Sriwijayan army.

    Javanese Noble Cataphract (cavarchers-cavlswords) = Turanggawesi
    short:
    Wearing heavy scale armour, frightening war masks, and riding half armoured horses, Turanggawesi are nobles, they fought as cataphract archers, expected to soften enemy ranks with their arrows, and closing in and hack through the enemy line afterwards. They are expected to deal the deciding blows in the battle.

    Javanese Cataphract Lancers (lancers-cavlswords) = Satriyo Turanggawesi
    short:
    Close combat cataphracts, clad in beautiful, yet exceptionally sturdy armour, befitting the heirs of ancient Indo-Saka cataphracts. These men wear frightening war masks to intimmidate enemy troops, and could be expected to break most enemy battle line rather easily, deciding the fate of most battles.

    Javanese Elite Cataphracts (cavarchers-lancers) = Satriyo Priyayi
    short:
    The royal troops of Javanese kingdoms, clad in beautiful, yet exceptionally sturdy armour, with frightening war masks. Carrying bows to kill the enemies from afar, and keris headed lance, to break enemy line into submission, as well as fight in melee. As cataphract, they are expected to deal the deciding blows.

    Javanese Chariots (chariot-archers) = Kreto Tempur
    short:
    Chariots may be an outdated war machine, but blade covered chariots, coupled with archers to pick the enemies from afar, is still the best choice to cut and break enemy cavalry forces, as well as softening enemy line before the chariot charges afterwards.

    Native Forest Worker Elephants (elephant-javelin) = Prajurit Gajah
    short:
    Abundance of elephants that was used in daily economic activities, means that they could be drafted into military usage too. These men and beasts are actually not a real soldiers, as the elephants are more comfortable to pulling logs and tear down woods, rather than trampling humans and ramming gates.

    Javanese Armoured War Elephants (elephant-javelin) = Gajah Wesi
    short:
    Real war elephants are rarity in Javanese land, but when it was really required, will come with the best things available to protect the elephants, because properly trained war elephants are both time consuming to train and exspensive. A heavy armour, made of steel scales, seems worth to protect the beast!
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    Default Re: Nusantara Total War : Portugese Invasion

    Good, but don't they use HUMAN blood for made sacred war paints on Pasukan Kampak Blambangan?
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    Default Re: Nusantara Total War : Portugese Invasion

    I think nobody can spot the difference between human blood and chicken blood, when it comes to mere war-paints

    BTW, but another refrences (negara kertagama), that exist earlier said that they use blood (not human blood specifically), yes?

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