Racial differences...

[Fragony]

I'm acing my classes and have a bright future lined up for myself. Big head, I've got. It must mean I am racially superior to you, right? You're only a ski instructor, right?

Naw, my logic must be convoluted.

You are really illustrating the argument he tries to make, genuine scientific research being made impossible by political correctness. Why do you read superiority when what written says differences, it's all in your head.

[Reenk Roink]

You are really illustrating the argument he tries to make, genuine scientific research being made impossible by political correctness. Why do you read superiority when what written says differences, it's all in your head.

Good, we definitely need more of society influencing the direction of science now. Any scientist who wants to do studies on racial differences, particularly and especially with respect to intelligence - (obviously as pointed out before, genetic differences that may be helpful in diagnosis and treatment of medical conditions should be looked at more) better be scrutinized a whole lot, and the pressure from the peer community better have him interpret the results in the correct fashion of differences due to ENVIRONMENTAL factors rather than any kind of biological or genetic factors which would just be wrong.

[Fragony]

Good, we definitely need more of society influencing the direction of science now. Any scientist who wants to do studies on racial differences, particularly and especially with respect to intelligence - (obviously as pointed out before, genetic differences that may be helpful in diagnosis and treatment of medical conditions should be looked at more) better be scrutinized a whole lot, and the pressure from the peer community better have him interpret the results in the correct fashion of differences due to ENVIRONMENTAL factors rather than any kind of biological or genetic factors which would just be wrong.

Why take enviroment as a given? Not very scientific. Read my first post I am against such research, might be interesting, but no. Hate to open it up for a Godwin but it's too dangerous imho. We really don't want this debate, not yet we are still licking wounds.

[CountArach]

Please people, keep everything civil. This is a touchy subject and people are toeing the line already, so I ask that people please get right away from the line.

[Strike For The South]

The diffrences between "races" negligibile and the only reason people assume there are marked differences between them is becuase that myth is propagated by a zionost controlled hollywood media to further divide the Proletariat and keep the bugeriosie in power.

[Reenk Roink]

Why take enviroment as a given? Not very scientific. Read my first post I am against such research, might be interesting, but no. Hate to open it up for a Godwin but it's too dangerous imho. We really don't want this debate, not yet we are still licking wounds.

It is incredibly naive to think that science is not affected by the environment. Especially when you get away from Physics and Chemistry (although these too are profoundly affected by the context). In the case of incredibly vague and poorly defined attributes like "intelligence" which aren't even defined in an value neutral way let alone 'studied' in one, the environmental factors again play a huge role.

There isn't any kind of objective truth about racial differences or lack thereof for science to discover. We as a (majority - still a ton of racists ) society have basically set up the fact that races are inherently equal and that environmental factors are the causes of differences. And the studies so far have overwhelmingly supported that paradigm.

Case in point, about 50ish years ago homosexuality was considered a mental illness here. With societies changing opinion on the matter, it is not anymore (though there are still those in the know that will tell you it is, but they are increasingly becoming relics of the past, and the societal pressure on them is huge).