Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
Even in professional boxing single knockouts to open a fight are very rare.

I don't know my dad knows judo and he can throw me around. (Not like I can use boxing or the like three krav maga moves I have)

Martial arts can be applicable if you actually delve deep into it and seperate the mysticism from the realistic moves I'm not a fan of Kung Fu and their high kicks think its bull I caught a kids leg once and threw him down, most people are way to inflexible and slow to do that with any And any form of wrestling will serve you well in fighting
There are many, many styles of Kung Fu. Saying that you do not like Kung Fu is like saying "I don't like any fighting systems that came out of Europe!". That would mean Pankration, Fencing, Boxing, etc. There is actually a great variety of Kung Fu styles that differ very much from each other. An art like Taijiquan has almost no kicks at all, and none of them are high (at least in the style of it that I practice). Wing Tsun kicks for instance 90% of the time are aimed at the knees or the groin. They can hardly be considered 'high'. I think that people in many forms of Kung Fu (and in Budo martial arts) have a hard time distinguishing between practice and application. There is a lot that can be effectively applied.
Wrestling will not help you against a serious martial artist unless you augment it with something else. The way wrestling is practiced now adays makes it one of the most useless sports around when it comes to applying them to self-defense.

Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
Fight are short, violent and brutish and usually one party is caught off gaurd

Combat sports are just that; sports and have very little application in the real world.

i don't mean to poop all over your thread but these martial arts matter little outside of training and compition
You are right, they are (or at least should be) short, they are violent, but they do not have to be brutish. If someone has some refinement of technique and physical training, then he will have the advantage. That is why martial arts are important.
I don't see why you keep referring to Wing Tsun as a combat sport. I have stated several times in this thread that it is not. If it were a sport, you would have no famous Wing Tsun competitors, because they would all kill each other in a very short amount of time. :P I will state it again for you: Wing Tsun is NOT a combat sport. It has no elements of a combat sport. It teaches you how to efficiently neutralize an opponent in the shortest amount of time. It is aggressive, and you close into your enemy as quickly as possible and finish them off with brutal techniques.

And you are wrong if you think that they are useless outside of training and competition. I have been attack several times since I started taking martial arts (once by someone quite a bit bigger than I), and I have been able to end the situation without causing serious harm to my attacker, and without getting hurt myself. Coincidently, one of the guys who attacked me would always go on about how martial arts were useless, and how he was an experienced street fighter and used to do wrestling and boxing. He attacked me I think to show me how useless Wing Tsun was. He ended up with a throbbing groin and a face that had taken twelve punches that, I think convinced him otherwise. And it was all over in about two seconds.
Sorry, but I have found out for myself first hand that martial arts do work...esp Wing Tsun. Most times it does not have to do with the martial art, but how it is applied and the person applying it.
Doing Wing Tsun will cut your reaction timing down so that you can respond to something in half the time it takes an opponent. Your speed, coordination, strength, and sensitivity will increase. Forgetting the technique, if for no other reason than for the physical benefits, Wing Tsun will give you a huge edge over your opponent. The average slow, weak, inept person at the bar will be shocked by your explosive attacks and will be taken down before they can react. I have seen Wing Tsun in action, and it works.