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    Quote Originally Posted by rotorgun View Post
    In addition, Japan's constitution specifically forbids the use of its armed forces in an offensive role, something that some in Japan would like to see changed. I hardly think that they would become involved without a mandate from the UN's, or the US government's tacit approval at least.
    Would the the defense of an ally be offensive?

    I am amazed that South Korea hasn't already responded with a retaliatory strike? Is anyone else not amazed?
    Not really. I highly doubt the ROK wants a war with North Korea which what a counter attack could easily turn into.



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    GA long bloody slog ice which is all I'm trying to say

    And actually without a us approval sticker they would not be able to defense d anywhere outside of the Japanese waters
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    Would the the defense of an ally be offensive?
    Not necessarily, but it would be a measuraed response I think, one well considered in light of their constitutional obligations.

    Not really. I highly doubt the ROK wants a war with North Korea which what a counter attack could easily turn into.
    This is my point. I think they lack the political will, which the North may interpret as a go ahead for a preemptive strike, one that could cripple the South's military in such a way as to insure a protracted war. If the North were to act with alacrity, they might just win some major concessions in a negotiated settlement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rotorgun View Post
    This is my point. I think they lack the political will, which the North may interpret as a go ahead for a preemptive strike, one that could cripple the South's military in such a way as to insure a protracted war. If the North were to act with alacrity, they might just win some major concessions in a negotiated settlement.
    I'm sure South Korea would fight hard if she was invaded in a major way. Right now, North Korea isn't invading in a major way.
    Remember what North Korea has near the South Korean capitol. It's not worth starting a major war when you could avoid it.
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    Rotor:

    I think SK has shown commendable restraint. The temptation to smart bomb an NK boat or two to make a point must have been compelling. Unfortunately, it wouldn't have done much more than their current response pattern.

    Re: Japanese involvement:

    They'll work on the naval side and provide awacs and sigint support. You will NOT see Japanese boots in Korea. There are WAY too many bad vibes from the past at play there for Japan to want to open that particular can of worms as well as a goodly cadre of domestic pacifists who want no Japanese military involvement in anything aside from the defense of Honshu. Short of a last-ditch defense of Pusan (which I don't think will happen again), the Japanese will not put ground troops in.
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    In fact Japan doing anything significant will likely prove counter-productive if the goal is to get China to drop NK. China may not like NK as much as it did; it still hates Japan much more so.
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    You mean aswacs I presume seamus?

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    That was fantastic, thanks a lot

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    Demonoid et al haven't come up with anything so I probably would have to buy it to watch it

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    No! 2-1! And the first half was going so well in the direction of the Marxists!

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    I have been fascinated by North Korea's presence in the World Cup. They really didn't play badly at all against Brazil.

    I was wondering how on earth they had kit and boots, or more exactly where it was from. Not all their players have the same boots -but it didn't look like any of their kit was Western made. Chinese products?

    Also, i heard on the commentary that the game wouldn't be screened (in North Korea) if it ended in a loss to DPRK -i've since read somewhere that the point (if true!) is moot as South Korea aren't forwarding the TV/satelite feed as part of the recent antagonism.

    The 50 odd, identicaly clad, exclusively male DPRK "fans" are also a sight to see.

    I'd be very intrigued to see anything y'all might have seen on how the rulers of DPRK are actually treating the event.

    So far all i've seen is this: "North Korea celebrate flawless 8-0 win" ...

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    I'm actually more excited about the Iroquois Confederacy's Nationals playing in this summer's 2010 World Lacrosse Championship at Manchester.

    The first game is, as far as I can tell, on July 15th: Team England vs Team Iroquois.

    Can't wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alh_p View Post
    I have been fascinated by North Korea's presence in the World Cup. They really didn't play badly at all against Brazil.

    I was wondering how on earth they had kit and boots, or more exactly where it was from. Not all their players have the same boots -but it didn't look like any of their kit was Western made. Chinese products?

    Also, i heard on the commentary that the game wouldn't be screened (in North Korea) if it ended in a loss to DPRK -i've since read somewhere that the point (if true!) is moot as South Korea aren't forwarding the TV/satelite feed as part of the recent antagonism.

    The 50 odd, identicaly clad, exclusively male DPRK "fans" are also a sight to see.

    I'd be very intrigued to see anything y'all might have seen on how the rulers of DPRK are actually treating the event.

    So far all i've seen is this: "North Korea celebrate flawless 8-0 win" ...
    Just so you know, some of the DPRK players wore Nike Mercurial Vapor boots.

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