Daggers in the Night [Concluded]

[Kagemusha]

I guess i have been born under lucky stars. Please be gentle with your vig attempt on me.These whip wounds are bad already.

[TheFlax]

So it seems whoever is voted by Kagemusha is lynched instead of him.

[Choxorn]

Well, now we know how it works, it switches to whoever Kage votes for. Thanks for that last minute vote switch revealing that, Kage!

[Kagemusha]

Well, now we know how it works, it switches to whoever Kage votes for. Thanks for that last minute vote switch revealing that, Kage!

Im glad if i could be of any assistance!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Lynch beefy; vig kage. It was not that hard!

Let us examine the kage voters.

[The Stranger]

ooooh i knew it.

i dont want to say i told you so, but i told you so.

[The Stranger]

So it seems whoever is voted by Kagemusha is lynched instead of him.

yes... as i thought already.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Well, it's nice to be right about some things.

I think the whole Beefy thing is WIFOM. Kage wants us to vig Beefy and then try for him again.

[The Stranger]

i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right
i was right

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Vote: Kage

This is the other mafioso. Methos and Kage are the final two. Vig kage, lynch methos tomorrow.

[TinCow]

This is the other mafioso. Methos and Kage are the final two. Vig kage, lynch methos tomorrow.

I agree with this.

[The Stranger]

vig kage?
like he will die then... wth are you guys thinking.

[Scienter]

I agree with this.

Me too. Nice of Kage to reveal like that. :P

[Beskar]

I love OP roles.

[Methos]

Sasaki you are an idiot. Were told to all vote one way yet when we do were considered as guilty because of it.

The update was hilarious considering I read it on my cellphone.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Sasaki you are an idiot. Were told to all vote one way yet when we do were considered as guilty because of it.

The update was hilarious considering I read it on my cellphone.

READING GAME ON CELLPHONE = GUILTY

[Methos]

The fact that Kage posted just before the update seems suspicios to me. I'm thinking he faked it to get us to believe it's who he voted.

[Romanic]

"I know who is the other mafia, it's...." Ring-Ring-Ring!

[Kagemusha]

Please dont vig me.Im just a honest poor reporter trying to make a buck.

[TinCow]

The fact that Kage posted just before the update seems suspicios to me. I'm thinking he faked it to get us to believe it's who he voted.

Really? Something Kage did was suspicious? What an interesting perspective.

This is a classic example of scum trying to find something useful to 'analyze' and failing. I'm very content with a Methos lynch tomorrow.

[Methos]

Wow, you guys are hilarious. Answer me this, if I'm scum, then why was I signing on with my phone to check tonights update? If I was scum, wouldn't I already know how it would turn out? Or is that question too difficult for you all to consider?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Wow, you guys are hilarious. Answer me this, if I'm scum, then why was I signing on with my phone to check tonights update? If I was scum, wouldn't I already know how it would turn out? Or is that question too difficult for you all to consider?

Just keep digging.

[Askthepizzaguy]

He's got a point though.

After Mafia IX, I don't think Methos would repeat Subotan's mistake. Methos was in mafia IX (I seem to recall someone making a big case against him that turned out to be wrong ) and he's aware of the dangers of posting from his phone.

[naut]

Lol. Methos is digging a hole. Regardless of what he is you should kill him. Anyone posting that scummily should die, no matter what they are. Call it: an Occupational Hazard.

[Askthepizzaguy]

After the game, I wonder if everyone I said was innocent would please step forward and shake my hand. And then the part where I said lynching Kage again so soon was a waste of time. Maybe Kage could give me a slap on the back for being a good sport about being ignored.

Nevermind. I will just eat my popcorn and enjoy the fireworks.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Maybe we should lynch Kage a couple more times. We could break the centurion record.

[Beefy187]

Ok guys you had your chance.
Since we lost Scienter and approaching late game, we can't afford to make any mistakes.

How to not make one?

Simple. Don't lynch or vig me because I'm townie.
I know I've been pretty useless all game, but lynching me will be terrible for the town and my self.

[naut]

Ok guys you had your chance.
Since we lost Scienter and approaching late game, we can't afford to make any mistakes.

How to not make one?

Simple. Don't lynch or vig me because I'm townie.
I know I've been pretty useless all game, but lynching me will be terrible for the town and my self.

Soft claim? Lynch Beefy too.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Whats up with all this WIFOM from Pizza, Beskar and Sasaki... it is only going to confuse the town

If i were to pick 2 henchemen, i would have gone for
1. Someone who could take care of themselves if pressured - Sasaki, Pizza or Tincow
2. Someone who has staying power - Jooray, pever, Beefy etc.

Interesting.

Here is a quote from Flax, that can be seen in my profile page

Wants Flax dead.

if you think he is scum, why havent you changed your vote?

Vote:GeneralHankerchief

Tincow has also been quieter than usual and looks scummy - perhaps i am clouded by my opinion that he would make be a good choice as a henchman.
Beefy's posts have been quite neutral so far...

Mentions Beefy, but never ever follows up on it. Neutral stance implies that he doesn't really want Beefy dead.

you were trying to create a tie with 3 votes?

here is the tally for that phase:
White_Eyes:D: 5 (TinCow, atheotes, Romanic, TheFlax, Diana Abnoba)

Beskar: 2 (Captain Blackadder, The Stranger)
The Stranger: 2 (Beskar, Choxorn)
Romanic: 2 (White_Eyes:D, Beefy187)
Beefy187: 2 (Jolt, pevergreen)
Kagemusha: 2 (YLC, Secura)

your plans would have been foiled by me if i had voted for any of the five
If you wanted a tie, why didnt you say it in the thread along with any case you had? Surely that would have been a better way to achieve that instead of hoping no one votes for any of these people...

But i do agree that Flax is behaving outside his norm...and is in my list of suspicious people along with Beskar, Tincow and yourself

Wants Flax dead.



Conclusions:

pevergreen or Beefy is likely to be his partner.

This just in... Kagemusha is awesome.

for picking you as mafia?

I missed it the first time, this quote saw it.

Vote: The Stranger

I expect better.

But you said the day before that he always acts like this. Kind of like how you always act a certain way.

He doesnt gain credibility by being lynched.



Unvote: Saskai, Vote: Beefy

Vote Beefy? pever? So soon? And over Sasaki no less? WTHeck?

Maybe he wont get more than 400 posts as well. I'll do my part to limit his post count.

Unvote: beefy, Vote: ATPG

Votes for ATPG whenever it is possible to kill me as town or mafia.

I wish.

Denies he could ever be picked as a slave.

Star Wars mafia is the only game in 3 years where i have survived until the end.

The last mafia game (GH's mafia) is the second longest I've survived. I die midgame, all the time. Early sometimes, but not often. Unless I'm scum, then I die early.

Tries really hard to defend himself, which is unusual for him. Gives reasons why he wouldn't be picked, or talks about his record of survival.

Why so serious, pevergreen? It's odd for you to be serious about anything, least of all yourself.

We could let him live because TS havn't played mafia for a while and because we're nice bunch who treats returnees well

Unlike the other scum who wanted to vote for The Stranger so that they blend in, Beefy doesn't.

Then again, I forgot that each henchmen get a kill... So if one of them dies, kills drops to one?

Ok then maybe not ATPG, unless atheotes theory is correct.

I still suspect Renata though.

At this point atheotes is toast and will be proven mafia in short order. Beefy unwittingly associates himself with atheotes' reasoning, which would make him look worse in just a round or two.

A mafia would likely retain a more distant posture, especially after it is too late to save atheotes. Better is to disassociate.

Unvote, Vote: Beefy

Sorry

If Beefy is involved with Kagemusha, then the plan is for Kagemusha to get lynched so that Kagemusha can kill whoever he feels like. So Beefy should go with the crowd and vote for Kagemusha.

Then, if Beefy is involved with Kagemusha, the objective is to make sure that Beefy DOES NOT get the top vote. That would be extremely bad for their entire team.

So Beefy's move here doesn't make any sense as mafia for two reasons, especially since it is very very very likely to backfire since many people have been calling for his head for several rounds.

Ok guys you had your chance.
Since we lost Scienter and approaching late game, we can't afford to make any mistakes.

How to not make one?

Simple. Don't lynch or vig me because I'm townie.
I know I've been pretty useless all game, but lynching me will be terrible for the town and my self.

Nothing Beefy has done all game has been out of character. He admits he has been off the mark, but he is still trying to prevent us from making a bad move. Which is what townie beefy would try to do, as he knows wasting a vig on him would be absolutely horrendous for the team.

He's alive because he's not a threat to the mafia because he's never sure who to vote for, and because he's not aggressive. He's also one who will vote himself when under pressure. There's been suspicion on him for several rounds, so again, why kill Beefy.

He's not the best of the best choice for slave henchman because he's often murdered if he isn't lynched by the mid-game. He also is not aggressive so it is harder for him to convincingly play the part when the situation requires it, which as a mafioso, you would be in several such situations.

pevergreen on the other hand can basically sit on his thumb for rounds at a time with no suspicion on him no matter what he does. He's also very unlikely to be suspected as being chosen as a slave, given recent games and some unpleasantness involved. He can accuse anyone at any time for any reason and it will never raise an eyebrow, because he's not expected to play seriously. His survival is never suspect because he often is contrary to whatever is popular, usually on purpose, so he's never really a threat to the scums. Thus when he's not murdered it doesn't seem out of place.

Kagemusha is also someone who would choose pevergreen because he is someone who thinks very hard about who he would choose for his partner. He realizes that pevergreen would be an ideal candidate in this game because of the fact that he's never suspicious even when he's doing things which are horrendously bad, and he doesn't attract votes or even murders. He also realizes the situation here in the gameroom where pever would be less likely to be recruited by anyone.... anyone but Kagemusha, really.

Kagemusha has made no attempt all game to get rid of pevergreen by the vote or by accusation.

atheotes has made no attempt all game to get rid of pevergreen by the vote or by accusation.

Always unserious and uncaring pevergreen suddenly bristles at the mention that someone might have recruited him. it's the only time this entire game he's been actually serious.

Why so serious, pevergreen? Even a single serious post from you is cause for alarm.






I would bet the farm that pevergreen was recruited by Kagemusha. In any case I believe that pevergreen is a liability and will be utterly uncooperative in the endgame anyway.

The one fatal flaw in your strategy pevergreen is that you prove to be no big loss when you die, and a liability when you're alive. So do us all a favor and die.

Good game though, Kagemusha. I admire your talented performance. Just remember I never once bought your Sahara News act and I was crawling up your butt all game.

[Niklas]

Excellent analysis Pizza.