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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    A prohibition on drilling would have prevented it. Regulation? Possibly, but possibly not. Remember, you can only establish regulations covering forseeable problems. I strongly suspect that coping with a major explosion such as occurred wasn't really considered and certainly wouldn't have been rated likely enough to warrant meticulous regulation.

    Regulation has its place, but mostly its to prevent repeat occurrences.
    Tougher envorimental restrictions on american cars would've prevented this, as that's the only way to get a prohibition on drilling.

    If we were all driving electric cars, we wouldn't see things like this.
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    Tougher envorimental restrictions on american cars would've prevented this, as that's the only way to get a prohibition on drilling.

    If we were all driving electric cars, we wouldn't see things like this.
    How so????? most lecky comes from dirty fossil fuels
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    How so????? most lecky comes from dirty fossil fuels
    That's your own fault for not building enough hydro-electricity.

    Here, almost all the electricity comes from hydro-electricity. Which is completely clean.

    EDIT: And at any rate, even if the electricity comes from a coal plant, an electric car would still be better. It costs about a dollar for enough electricity to drive some 100km. Think you can do that with a combustion engine...?
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    That's your own fault for not building enough hydro-electricity.

    Here, almost all the electricity comes from hydro-electricity. Which is completely clean.
    Your clearly know nothing about Hydro-Power it's not suitable everywhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    Your clearly know nothing about Hydro-Power it's not suitable everywhere
    Is it my fault your country didn't have the sense to get yourself some big mountains and some proper rivers....?

    Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
    Petrol is still more efficient way to generate energy to drive the car, electricity will not generate enough charge to match a full tank of petrol in speed or distance
    Depends on where you're driving. An electric car is more than sufficient for what 90% of us drive in a day.
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    Is it my fault your country didn't have the sense to get yourself some big mountains and some proper rivers....?
    obviously they were stolen by the Vikings so we got Brian Boru to kick your asses
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    EDIT: And at any rate, even if the electricity comes from a coal plant, an electric car would still be better. It costs about a dollar for enough electricity to drive some 100km. Think you can do that with a combustion engine...?
    Petrol is still more efficient way to generate energy to drive the car, electricity will not generate enough charge to match a full tank of petrol in speed or distance
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    That's your own fault for not building enough hydro-electricity.

    Here, almost all the electricity comes from hydro-electricity. Which is completely clean.

    EDIT: And at any rate, even if the electricity comes from a coal plant, an electric car would still be better. It costs about a dollar for enough electricity to drive some 100km. Think you can do that with a combustion engine...?
    In Washington state the stupid hippies got a referendum passed that classified hydro-power (which we've got a lot of, but the hippies dislike it because it's harder for some fish) as a non-renewable energy source. So instead electric companies will have to invest in much less efficient wind and solar power to get the renewable energy quota.

    Oh, and as for what I can do with a combustion engine; drive more than 100 miles in a day. Turns out that's quite useful in America.

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    Oh, and as for what I can do with a combustion engine; drive more than 100 miles in a day. Turns out that's quite useful in America.

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    Most of the worlds population live in big cities, and we do not care about that.

    And what's stopping you from having two cars; one electric for driving short distances, and one petrol/hybrid for longer trips...?
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    And what's stopping you from having two cars; one electric for driving short distances, and one petrol/hybrid for longer trips...?
    Are you also getting free cars in Norway?

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    Are you also getting free cars in Norway?
    I'm sorry, do you live in a third world country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Most of the worlds population live in big cities, and we do not care about that.

    And what's stopping you from having two cars; one electric for driving short distances, and one petrol/hybrid for longer trips...?
    You mentioned America:
    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    Tougher envorimental restrictions on american cars would've prevented this, as that's the only way to get a prohibition on drilling.
    And in America, even in large cities, it matters. And buying two cars because one is useless for long trips is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    You mentioned America:


    And in America, even in large cities, it matters. And buying two cars because one is useless for long trips is stupid.

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    ....And could you please explain why you can't buy a hybrid....?

    And why on earth is it stupid to have a second car you can use back and forth to work and the grocery store at almost zero cost...? most families already have two cars, one of which is usually a small one, like a Micra, yaris or Corsa. I see no reason why that one can't be replaced by an electric car.
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