Capo de Tutti Capi - IV [Thoughts and Recommendations]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Last capo pizza swore he was going mafia in the next game.

Which of course means I will go pro-town this time, mwahahah....

But because I am Askthepizzaguy, that's obviously another bluff, so I must be mafia.

Or am I?

[Kagemusha]

Which of course means I will go pro-town this time, mwahahah....

But because I am Askthepizzaguy, that's obviously another bluff, so I must be mafia.

Or am I?

Ok so it will be another heads up from turn one onwards! FOS ATPG!

[Double A]

Hey you're not the guy who asks the questions, we ask you the questions! Read your own name, gosh.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Okay. I'll begin this thing.

PLEASE keep the suggestions coming. When I am revamping things I do look at all sorts of input -- and I had even brainstormed a few of those mentioned above.

The central problems include: preventing a townie group or mafia coalition or new family from forming so easiliy and completely (part of the fun of the game is working to build such, but it shouldn't happen too easily).

A slightly reduced number of families (depending on sign-ups). I really think that I need about 25 people per family, so I'll probably not cap the playing numbers and hope for 125 plus. Not sure I philosophically agree with varied strength families at outset, but perhaps a 4th starter...hmmm.

Good ideas folks. Thanks.

Do I need to formally request a slot on the sign-up list or will announcement here and negotiations herein for a slot suffice?

[TinCow]

I really think that I need about 25 people per family, so I'll probably not cap the playing numbers and hope for 125 plus.

That's.... a big number. With any group that large, there are likely to be a significant number of WOGs. Might want to take that into account in the balancing.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

That's.... a big number. With any group that large, there are likely to be a significant number of WOGs. Might want to take that into account in the balancing.

I do. I was going with a 1 family per 15 in the original capo -- didn't fly smoothly enough to suit me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I do. I was going with a 1 family per 15 in the original capo -- didn't fly smoothly enough to suit me.

I tend to agree with Tincow... but it depends on what you're doing and how strong the families are and how many people start in the family.

I might lean towards 20 per family as a starting point.

[Kagemusha]

Well maybe you could have a FBI task force as one of the factions, kind of a pro town faction that could recruit townies and wiseguys, just like mafia factions could.

[Secura]

I'll probably not cap the playing numbers and hope for 125 plus.

I've never seen a game reach fifty signups yet in the last six months of being here, so 125 seems like a bit of a stretch.

Do we even have that many people active in the Gameroom? Could one person really handle the administrative aspects of a game with that sort of magnitude? o_O'

[johnhughthom]

There were 76 players last time out, we have had the CFC invasion since then and TWC has had a recent revival so we could get some from there. 125 might not be as far-fetched as it sounds.

[Kagemusha]

There were 76 players last time out, we have had the CFC invasion since then and TWC has had a recent revival so we could get some from there. 125 might not be as far-fetched as it sounds.

I hope this is not sarcasm.I am painfully aware that last time there were two FBI detectives, but what im talking about would be a FBI faction that could recruit wiseguys as snitches and try and infiltrate and destroy mafia families from within, with ofcourse the risk of mafia counter infiltration. I think this would add another layer of paranoia in the game.

[johnhughthom]

I think you quoted the wrong post there Kage...

It wasn't sarcasm, we actually had three FBI last time (I should know, I was one of them) and being able to recruit wiseguys as snitches like you say would have been great.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yeah, I think it was amazing that we managed to hit 80. 76 :p

[TinCow]

I've never seen a game reach fifty signups yet in the last six months of being here, so 125 seems like a bit of a stretch.

Do we even have that many people active in the Gameroom? Could one person really handle the administrative aspects of a game with that sort of magnitude? o_O'

The Capo games bring out people who don't normally play in the Gameroom. 70 to 80 players is likely. 125 is something of a staggering goal, but if any game can do it Capo can.

[Secura]

The Capo games bring out people who don't normally play in the Gameroom.

It would be nice if just a handful of those played here more often, because then we wouldn't have a case where hosts are having to cut roles out or heavily amend as a result; Noblesse Oblige and Beefdom Will Rise Once More! come to mind when I think of this. That's not counting all the people who sign up and then don't play at all or sign up but post once in a blue moon, no names required.

Sorry for being sceptical. :/

[Subotan]

It would be nice if just a handful of those played here more often, because then we wouldn't have a case where hosts are having to cut roles out or heavily amend as a result; Noblesse Oblige, Beefdom Will Rise Once More! and A Bridge Zhou Far I come to mind when I think of this. That's not counting all the people who sign up and then don't play at all or sign up but post once in a blue moon, no names required.

Sorry for being sceptical. :/

Your point was just so good, I had to post it again.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Basically I would do a big huge recruitment drive over at TWC and CFC. I have some influence there and lots of CFC friends who could help spread the word that this game is awesome.

I could pretty much guarantee at least 10 new players, or my name isn't Askthepizzaguy.

These would all be experienced mafia players too.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Reenk is right in that (if the town still exists in the game, ie we're not going with Tincow's idea) the townie network is important. However, it's important that their success is based on their actions - who they attack or defend - and detecting mafia without simply using the process of deduction by determining who was doing night actions and who wasn't. Having the mafia able to do a second night action, killing a target, if sponsored by their don would stop this.

CR

[Seamus Fermanagh]

One of the things I am happiest about with the Capo series is that it has done quite a bit to bring new players into the Gameroom.

Andres was drafted in game one, and we had Banquo and Louis playing -- Andres going on to become a GR stalwart.

In and around game two we got Elite Ferret, gibson, Glenn, Kukri, scottish ranger, TinCow and even Makanyane (wish she'd stayed).

Capo III brought in atheotes, CDF, Skooma, and Yaro...


100 is quite likely with a bit of effort and 150 is not impossible -- though 'pizza is correct that it would take a bit of marketing. Its actually one of the aspects of Capo I have a lot of fun with -- the number of combinations on nights 1-3 is a little staggering. Add in a little paranoid ambiguity and you have a recipe for some real fun!

[gibsonsg91921]

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when is this happening? can someone call me directly on my high priority presidential phone line when it does?

[Askthepizzaguy]

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when is this happening? can someone call me directly on my high priority presidential phone line when it does?

This is just rumor, because I don't have first hand information, but it may be hosted later this year, around summer or fall. If it happens, I'll do my usual thing and go to everyone's house personally, use a battering ram to bust down their front door, and drag them to New Jersey myself.