Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
All right then I say let them go free so, I will move on and I will say let them be given same treatment as the IRA/UVF etc I am big enough to accept that this is what must be done for the peace.

But I want to see them condemned just like the IRA/UVF types if one side are scum so are these men who are nothing but murderers in my view.

Fair play to Cameron yesterday he rightly condemned these men he could see that the families of the bereaved deserved an apology and that giving such did not weaken Britain but strengthen it in my view.

Long may peace and good relations continue between our two islands.


Included some reaction and articles on Bloody Sunday as usual the last link by Kevin Myers is full of historical nuggets the man is a veritable one man history book.

How the victims died

Cowen welcomes vindication at last for murdered civilians


Article on Parachute regiment and IRA makes depressing reading
I agree completely, nor do I think these soldiers are in any way blameless. I would, however, point out that the paratroopers were deployed by HM Government as peacekeepers (why you would do such a thing being beside the point), and I remain suspicious about the beginning of the killings, viz why the PIRA were there and what they did.

Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
(Oh, and Philipvs - the Republic's legitimacy as an independent state is recognised by treaty, international law and in fact. It's establishment thereas has no relation whatsoever to the perceived status of those who so established it - any more than the independence of the United States is lessened by you considering her founders as rebels).
Yes, I do realise that. Leaving aside how I feel about the various gripes of the Irish people from the perspective of a provincial Englishman, I am not suggesting that Ireland is not a legitimate State. However, many of the men who governed Ireland when it initially broke from the rest of the UK were, if I recall correctly, of a similar strike as those currently sat in Stormont.

Those were the people the British Crown dealt with to create that peace.