Why are chariots so effective in killing cavalry? ( Is it historically correct?)

[ARCHIPPOS]

hmmmmm, playing at medium battle difficulty i have found chariots to be quite fragile. Casse chariots are annoyingly easy to kill when stationary.Also they die from Javelins quite easily.In my KH campaign i have come across Pontus scythed chariots quite a few times.Their charge can prove dangerous (but hey all charges are supposed to be).After the initial shock though and once engaged in melee they die like flies.Take in notice that contrary to normal cavalry they cannot withdraw and charge again (they get overrun due to their large turning radius).Effective against cavalry ??? Are you talking about some low-tier hippakontistai ??? Because Greek mercenary generals, medium hippeis or even prodromoi chew scythed chariots up taking around 15% casualties (provided they charge first of course). I suppose even horse archers can prove devastating against chariots because they are faster, more manouverable with better stamina and they carry lots of missiles... i have never tried that though :) All in all i'ld say chariot performance is quite realistic in EB.They're a fragile war machine with many tactical limitations and some advantages if used correctly.You wanna see overpowered chariots play the Britons in RTW.Their bows and arrows were outrageously effective. extra long range too. Kinda felt like having snipers on land rovers...

[Apázlinemjó]

hmmmmm, playing at medium battle difficulty i have found chariots to be quite fragile. Casse chariots are annoyingly easy to kill when stationary.Also they die from Javelins quite easily.In my KH campaign i have come across Pontus scythed chariots quite a few times.Their charge can prove dangerous (but hey all charges are supposed to be).After the initial shock though and once engaged in melee they die like flies.Take in notice that contrary to normal cavalry they cannot withdraw and charge again (they get overrun due to their large turning radius).Effective against cavalry ??? Are you talking about some low-tier hippakontistai ??? Because Greek mercenary generals, medium hippeis or even prodromoi chew scythed chariots up taking around 15% casualties (provided they charge first of course). I suppose even horse archers can prove devastating against chariots because they are faster, more manouverable with better stamina and they carry lots of missiles... i have never tried that though :) All in all i'ld say chariot performance is quite realistic in EB.They're a fragile war machine with many tactical limitations and some advantages if used correctly.You wanna see overpowered chariots play the Britons in RTW.Their bows and arrows were outrageously effective. extra long range too. Kinda felt like having snipers on land rovers...

I guess you've never faced human player with chariots before. :P

[vartan]

I think it was Apaz who tested it, but anyone with experience can tell you: Chariot armies defeat Kataphract armies, with devastating unbelievable results.

[ARCHIPPOS]

I think it was Apaz who tested it, but anyone with experience can tell you: Chariot armies defeat Kataphract armies, with devastating unbelievable results.

waaaaaat ??? are you guys serious ???

[Apázlinemjó]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

It was 3 Cidainh vs 5 AI Grivpanvar. Though, taking 5 down in a multiplayer battle is impossible, since humans are smarter than the AI and they wouldn't try to hammer down the chariots like they were infantry.

Edit: Had a few runs with ASM, 3 Cidainh could take 3 Grivpanvar down, however the chariots were easily defeated by HAs and after that by hoplites. Lol.

[mountaingoat]

they are the "anti cav" cav .. i find it better in MP battles to just leave them behind the enemy ( gives a bonus ) , rather than charge them in , as they die quickly in melee (against non cav units).

[seienchin]

I hoped they will be removed in EBII, but they dont seem to be... They were rediculous in EBI. Everything about them was broken. They are even deadly to riders when they flee... They can run like 40 times through a infantry unit without beeing slowed down too much and let everybody fly in the air and still nobody is dead...
In Rome total war they were annoying because they were so strong (Interesting cause I only recall that empires who used them eventually lost against cavallery or infantry centered armies...), but in EB they dont make sense. Esspecially because everybody is so hard to kill (Which I really like. Ebs battles are awesome. :) ) and than there are the chariots, wich are laughable against infantry and let everybody fly in the air or force to the ground (They actually act like modern racing cars smashing through a crowd of people), but kill cavallery even when fleeing or when atacked in the back...