Arverni Vs. Aedui

**vartan** · 07-05-2010, 06:16

Originally Posted by Geticus

So if you are into the unique troops, I recommend going with the Arverni and building late game battlelines of Arjos.

Reminds me: People do this online as Arverni, at least sometimes. It's a very strong force I'll say. 2k units each, but elite. Great anti-cav, great swordsmen...

**Cute Wolf** · 07-05-2010, 06:21

Originally Posted by vartan

Reminds me: People do this online as Arverni, at least sometimes. It's a very strong force I'll say. 2k units each, but elite. Great anti-cav, great swordsmen...

the Arjos may be seen as Elite from the MIC level, but mind you that they are historically used as very strong battle line holder, they are actually way to balanced the Arvernii, so they won't lose to Aedui (Carnute is elite, extremely good swordsmen, and still could "druidic chant" the line, who gave all nearby unit +5 attack, +5 defense skill, and some really big ammount of morale, effectively turning a line of bataroas and gaelaiche into a force capable of matching most elite infantry (but hey, the Drwdae also doing that... but they are relatively weak swordsmen, actually)

**seienchin** · 07-05-2010, 08:05

+5Atack +5 Defense through chanting? Never heard about that. I thought it only strenghtens moral?

**Cute Wolf** · 07-05-2010, 08:23

some articles in TWC said about that... as far as I remember

**vartan** · 07-05-2010, 08:27

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

the Arjos may be seen as Elite from the MIC level, but mind you that they are historically used as very strong battle line holder, they are actually way to balanced the Arvernii, so they won't lose to Aedui (Carnute is elite, extremely good swordsmen, and still could "druidic chant" the line, who gave all nearby unit +5 attack, +5 defense skill, and some really big ammount of morale, effectively turning a line of bataroas and gaelaiche into a force capable of matching most elite infantry (but hey, the Drwdae also doing that... but they are relatively weak swordsmen, actually)

You're the historian of the world mate, I figured that out ages ago! But yeah, you tell me they're historically used as a battle line holder and then tell me they're used in the game to balance the Arverni against the Aedui. I don't think any intentional manipulation of what one would historically see to balance something out, or rather "balance" it out, would really be in-line with the whole historicity, understand?

Originally Posted by seienchin

+5Atack +5 Defense through chanting? Never heard about that. I thought it only strenghtens moral?

Don't count on it. I don't believe in most of this bull anyway. I've lost faith in all humanity (this is where you laugh). Unless I hear it from a CA developer, I ain't believin' ****.

**Cute Wolf** · 07-05-2010, 08:31

too bad, twc is down....

ADD : and if I was right, the logic behind that bonus was because the "command" bonus allready increased morale, and that don't need special manouvers to be performed (eq Druidic chant) - And Carnutes did allready had command

~ Cute Wolf (maybe I confused this ability with something else? anyone want to correct this?)

**athanaric** · 07-05-2010, 16:20

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

(maybe I confused this ability with something else? anyone want to correct this?)

Maybe Warcry? That certainly increases attack.

**antisocialmunky** · 07-05-2010, 16:34

There may be a small increase to attack or defense(sincei t makes celtic axemen >> principes but it is certainly not +5/+5.

But yeah, that's a good find for online. Its probably just like +1/+1 or +2/+2 with some moral bonus. Scary.