Reflections on the World Cup: Africans aren't badly organized; you're just a racist.

[Crazed Rabbit]

But one thing kept bugging me: when the african teams were discussed, they always stated that they were poorly organized at the back. What? African teams got at most three goals against them, on two occasions; the first was suffered by the poorest african team, South Africa, and the second was against Brazil. Meanwhile, teams like England got 4 goals against them, but where are the people saying that englishmen have no sense of organization? Korea also got 4 against them, and Japan got 3, but nobody's claiming that asians are incapable of proper organization. Sure, Cameroon did a lot of silly stuff in the match against Denmark, but by bloody hell, so did the danish defense!

Why do we then make such claims? Because Englishmen and Danes are superior whites, Asians are human calculators and black africans are stone age monkeys.

In fact, the true problem the african teams have faced in this world cup, is offensive cooperation. They haven't been able to create the really big scoring opportunities and has scored a lot less than you would expect from teams with so many good offensive players. Algerie, for example, only conceded two goals, but they failed to proceed because they failed to score any goals themselves.

Hmm. I didn't notice any of the ESPN announcers saying that. Maybe it's just the Norwegian announcers who are racist.

Oh, and Suarez can burn.

I agree with you completely HoreTore.

What really angered me was the ESPN announcers saying it was disgraceful for the fans to boo Suarez.

CR

[HoreTore]

There's nothing racist about these stereotypes, its more to do with the culture that surrounds football in these places.

Indeed, I do not disagree with that statement.

HOWEVER, saying that african teams are disorganized at the back is still complete rubbish, and this world cup proved it. No, I still maintain my claim that the universal fault in the african teams was their lack of offensive cooperation, ie. getting their through balls to connect with the strikers, as well as their movement off the ball.

The African teams proved in this world cup that they are as tight at the back as a Jehovas Witness at the blue oyster club. Yet the disorganized african myth still lingers on, and I can't see many reasons for that except racism and the underdeveloped and stupid african myth.

On the subject of footballing cultures; I don't really believe that Africa has any. Why? Because they lack good leagues. Every good african is shipped off to europe at the age of 18, leaving the national league without any players capable of playing at the national team(kudos to SA on this one). Now, what does that mean? It means that developing a single culture and continuity becomes impossible. The English national team plays the way it does because that's the way the majority of english sides play, and have played for ages. The Netherlands are still playing(at least trying) the way Ajax started playing back in the 60's. Norway plays a physical, direct style that we've played for ages. In Africa, however, there is no league to lay the foundations of a culture. Their national teams have no common ground, it's a dizzying mix of English, French, Italian, Spanish and Dutch styles of fotball.

Hmm. I didn't notice any of the ESPN announcers saying that.

In what alternate universe does a yank with football knowledge exist?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

We import our announcers from overseas.

[HoreTore]

We import our announcers from overseas.

it was a joke.... I've never watched ESPN, so I have no knowledge of what's going on there...

[drone]

I believe it was Ian Darke who was commentating the 3rd place match, defending Suarez (rightly so, I might add). For the knockout stages, it was mainly him paired with John Harkes, and Martin Tyler paired with Efan Ekoku alternating the games. Ally McCoist got sick or lost his voice at some point. At least we were spared Tommy Smyth.

In Africa, however, there is no league to lay the foundations of a culture. Their national teams have no common ground, it's a dizzying mix of English, French, Italian, Spanish and Dutch styles of fotball.

So what you are saying is that they are disorganized?

[HoreTore]

So what you are saying is that they are disorganized?

Whatever gave you that idea?

A common football ideology has nothing to do with how capable you are of organizing a sturdy defense.

[drone]

Whatever gave you that idea?

A common football ideology has nothing to do with how capable you are of organizing a sturdy defense.

You are the one with the announcer problem. Disorganized defense by the African teams was not a topic over here. When excusing the failures of the CAF nations in the tournament, we had injuries (Drogba/IC), pre-tourney coaching changes (Cameroon, Nigeria), and just not being that good (South Africa). Algeria didn't even try to advance. I'm fairly certain when the topic of disorganized defense came up, they were talking about the US squad.

He was my favorite, it's a shame.

He got paired with Tyler a few times as the color man. A great team.

[Gregoshi]

We import our announcers from overseas.

"Give us your tired, your poor, your soccer [sic] announcers who say 'nil' instead of 'zero' and 'level' instead of 'tied'..."

[Sasaki Kojiro]

"Give us your tired, your poor, your soccer [sic] announcers who say 'nil' instead of 'zero' and 'level' instead of 'tied'..."

"the parugayan defense has been both miserly and obdurate"

Ally McCoist got sick or lost his voice at some point.

He was my favorite, it's a shame.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Indeed, I do not disagree with that statement.

HOWEVER, saying that african teams are disorganized at the back is still complete rubbish, and this world cup proved it. No, I still maintain my claim that the universal fault in the african teams was their lack of offensive cooperation, ie. getting their through balls to connect with the strikers, as well as their movement off the ball.

The African teams proved in this world cup that they are as tight at the back as a Jehovas Witness at the blue oyster club. Yet the disorganized african myth still lingers on, and I can't see many reasons for that except racism and the underdeveloped and stupid african myth.

So disorganised at the front, then?

I never heard any of this "racist" rubbish, anyway. I remember a Norwegian telling me that you don't want to meet a Norwegian in Norway, meet him somewhere else, he seemed to think you were all xenophobes. Though he was just raised in Norway, he was actually an Anglo-Cypriot.

[Strike For The South]

Norway is a country in Scandanavia known for it's long winters and austere beauty.

[Centurion1]

Norway has a good military for its size. And my commie hating father grudginly praises parts of norway. So something good must be there.

Though horetore your racist assertion is laughable.