Tea Party funds Obama as Hitler/Lennon message, walks it back

[Beskar]

Was tempted to post this, thanks for doing it.

Though, "National Socialism" was only a name and Obama is no where near a socialist. Even Margret Thatcher is more of a Socialist.



I was tempted to put up George Washington as well, for the Irony, but I couldn't be bothered.


Edit: It is also Lennin, not Lennon. Though Lennon also advocated change. Also, even the Billboard advocates change. Ultimately, it is stupid.

[Gregoshi]

Edit: It is also Lennin, not Lennon. Though Lennon also advocated change.

Lennin/Lennon. To-may-to/To-mah-to. I suspect it wouldn't really matter to folks who put up the billboard.

[Centurion1]

It is stupid but let's not act like liberals have done far worse.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

It is stupid but let's not act like liberals have done far worse.

ok

[Beskar]

It is stupid but let's not act like liberals have done far worse.

Agreed.

[CountArach]

It is stupid but let's not act like liberals have done far worse.

Deal.

[Askthepizzaguy]

It is stupid but let's not act like liberals have done far worse.

I hear that!

[Louis VI the Fat]

It is stupid but let's not act like liberals have done far worse.

Works for me.

[Gregoshi]

Great! Let's all have some tea, shall we?

[Askthepizzaguy]

TEA BAG the LIBERAL DEMS

BEFORE THEY TEA BAG YOU!!

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

ok

Agreed.

Deal.

I hear that!

Works for me.

Now you all look like Liberal jerks, well done boys.

Seriously though, Obama has a personality cult, great oratory and a carefully cultivated (and hence cultic) image in common with both Hitler and Lenin. The Billboard is also historically grounded, all three men have offered "change" and two have not delivered, and yes it does work even better with Thatcher, she also shares all those traits with Hitler.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Now you all look like Liberal jerks, well done boys.

Seriously though, Obama has a personality cult, great oratory and a carefully cultivated (and hence cultic) image in common with both Hitler and Lenin. The Billboard is also historically grounded, all three men have offered "change" and two have not delivered, and yes it does work even better with Thatcher, she also shares all those traits with Hitler.

Seriously though, [fill in the name of a politician] has a personality cult, great oratory and a carefully cultivated image.

What in the blue heck are you talking about? People with mustaches are just like Hitler and Stalin too....

Did you know that Hitler and Stalin were men? My goodness, all men are Hitler.

[a completely inoffensive name]

This thread has made me lol multiple times.

On topic: The billboard shows how out of touch the tea parties philosophy is with the majority of moderate Americans. As the tea party gets bigger, the message is pressured to be toned down. As the message is watered down, the political punch and attention it gets is reduced. As the attention is reduced, the tea party then fails to get new members and slowly dies off. By the 2012 election cycle the tea party will be very marginalized, by their own success and by the undermining of Republicans who are threatened and attacked by tea party members competing against them.

[rory_20_uk]

Seriously though, Obama has a personality cult, great oratory and a carefully cultivated (and hence cultic) image in common with both Hitler and Lenin. The Billboard is also historically grounded, all three men have offered "change" and two have not delivered, and yes it does work even better with Thatcher, she also shares all those traits with Hitler.

What politicians don't have a carefully cultivated image?
Politicians offer one of two things: status quo or change.

So, broadly 50% of politicians ever fit the bill.

[Subotan]

It is stupid but let's not act like liberals have done far worse.

I reluctantly agree

Now you all look like Liberal jerks, well done boys..

As opposed to conservative jerks?

Seriously though, Obama has a personality cult, great oratory and a carefully cultivated (and hence cultic) image in common with both Hitler and Lenin. The Billboard is also historically grounded, all three men have offered "change" and two have not delivered, and yes it does work even better with Thatcher, she also shares all those traits with Hitler.

Your description of what Obama, Lenin and Hitler all have in common is basically what all successful politicians have in common. People like them, they have a carefully controlled public image, and they often get elected on the basis of "the current government sucks let's try something new".

The comparison the Tea Party makes with Obama and Lenin/Hitler stems from ignorance about what socialism and Nazism actually mean, rather than any meaningful comparison of economic policy.

[Beskar]

Does that mean you voted for Hitler, PVC?

David Cameron = Cult of Personality, Promise of Change, etc.

[Husar]

all three men have offered "change" and two have not delivered,

Uhm, Obama hasn't delivered that much change but the other two delivered a lot of change, Lenin turned Russia into a Socialist superpower of sorts that changed not only Russia in the end but also the rest of the world, people are still afraid of it today, even though it doesn't exist anymore. Hitler turned Germany and many other countries into a pile of dirt and huge warzones, if that isn't some kind of change then I don't know, he didn't exactly continue the Weimar Republic's politics, did he?
And that's just one reason why the billboard doesn't really fit.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Though, "National Socialism" was only a name

People need to appreciate this more. Just because it has "socialism" in the name doesn't mean it is left-wing. Is state capitalism right wing just because it has "capitalism" in the name?

Hence why I facepalm at the BNP being put to the left of Labour on the political compass. Ramming all the policies into one left-right scale doesn't do justice to how many dimensions there are to all the different ideologies.

[gaelic cowboy]

Ramming all the policies into one left-right scale doesn't do justice to how many dimensions there are to all the different ideologies.

It is silly this political compass thingy fullstop bloody thing should be banned for polluting the minds of otherwise sensible people

[HoreTore]

In what alternate universe did Lenin have a personality cult before he attained power...?

Only a tiny group of people even knew what he looked like.

[rory_20_uk]

From the first speech when he borrowed a worker's cap to not look like the well-heeled ex-Parisian German stooge he was onwards.

Bolsheviks (majority) beat the Menchaviks (minority).

[Centurion1]

A guy forgets two letters and you jackals jump all over it.

Let's not act like liberals HAVEN'T done far worse

[Centurion1]

A guy forgets two letters and you jackals jump all over it.

Let's not act like liberals HAVEN'T done things just as bad.

[Lemur]

Let's not act like liberals HAVEN'T done things just as bad.

Gotcha!

[HoreTore]

From the first speech when he borrowed a worker's cap to not look like the well-heeled ex-Parisian German stooge he was onwards.

Bolsheviks (majority) beat the Menchaviks (minority).

Yes, the communist party knew who he was.

The rest of the Russian population couldn't recognize him on a photo.

[PanzerJaeger]

First of all, as has been mentioned, the OP seems to be unaware that the Tea Party is not, in fact, a singular, organized entity.

Second, enduring eight years of Bush=Hitler hysterics from the Left, including some of the most inane, bat- crazy conspiracy theories I've ever heard, puts this obscure little incident into some perspective.







And my personal fav... BUSH knocked down the towers in some sort of Reichstag-esce power grab!!1

[Askthepizzaguy]

People need to appreciate this more. Just because it has "socialism" in the name doesn't mean it is left-wing. Is state capitalism right wing just because it has "capitalism" in the name?

Hence why I facepalm at the BNP being put to the left of Labour on the political compass. Ramming all the policies into one left-right scale doesn't do justice to how many dimensions there are to all the different ideologies.

Stuff you and I actually agree on, Rhyfelwyr.

I have been screaming this at the top of my lungs for ages. Some of the first posts I ever put in the backroom involved shunning participation in that political compass thing. It is a mechanism of oversimplification and division.

It is silly this political compass thingy fullstop bloody thing should be banned for polluting the minds of otherwise sensible people

THANK YOU.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Stuff you and I actually agree on, Rhyfelwyr.

We're both fairly moderate fellows when it comes to politics, I'm sure we agree on plenty of stuff.

Why is everyone so shocked when they agree with me on something? Am I really that controversial a poster?