The Trouble in Waiting [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hmm.

Thermal once told me, you can make a case on anyone if you tried hard enough.

False logic.

The case isn't what's important, the facts of the situation are. His guilt is what is important.

That certainly seems to be the case right now.

No, it's not.

ATPG's case sounds too certain and justified, somehow everything that Woad has done is now being portrayed as a strike against him. Imaginary/implausible/minutely possible links everywhere, I'll echo what Renata said and say that you're trying too hard.

That's better than not trying at all. I often wonder why I bother, when people don't come up with their own cases ever and just skate through games and then wonder why they lose.

Not you, DIY, but I can certainly suggest God Emperor hasn't put out the effort this time, or at least hasn't shown it.

Also, if this is just a fishing attempt to see who buys the easy vote (lazy people), I think it backfired rather stupendously, and furthermore, this is rather implausible as a motive because you took it very far, father than needs be unless you were dead serious in your accusations.

Incorrect; look at how far I took it against Subotan in Star Wars..... against Psychonaut in Star Wars.... against Andres in Pick your Power.

Do you guys remember how I play at all?

Vote: ATPG

Unsure why, but when you talk about how woad wants to get someone lynched so that he can win the game, the same would follow for you, and many others.

That's not the point. The point is, woad is definitely trying to get someone lynched, but he's basing it off of an erroneous dead guy.

COME ON, PEOPLE, you've been mafia before. Picture this.

It's the final round of the game. You're up against a still fairly large town, and it's a vanilla game. You're worried that accusations against people will backfire. You haven't actually been hunting mafia. So you don't have a case.

Your plan? Wait for someone to make a bad case.

Oh look, a dead guy says that pizza is guilty.... and he just voted for Renata.

Gotcha....

Now Renata, good or evil, will vote for Pizza. With the added weight of Pinman's accusation, the lynch cannot possibly fail. All you have to do is vote for this guy, and the game is over.

How could you, as mafia, possibly resist this move?

Think about it. You're not giving me a fair shake, and you're ignoring what is OBVIOUSLY the scummiest move in the game.

But what seems obvious to me isn't always obvious to others. Just think about it. The game isn't technically over yet.

Townies and mafia alike want to get someone lynched this round, though for different reasons. Therefore, this as a reasoning for woad's supposed "scumminess" is invalid.

Wrong. You're just plain wrong, DIY.





You've looked at it and made a snap judgment, and the judgment is wrong.

Assume that you were right for the moment, and I'm mafia, and I'm about to be lynched.... well you have the votes, yay.

Now, you have the free time to consider, whether or not your assessment was correct. Clear your minds, go back, and pretend you're woad&fangs..... read all of his posts and interactions.... and put yourself in his place. Think of what YOU would do as mafia.

If you do this, I am confident you will arrive at the same conclusion; everything woad&fangs did all game long was based on one thing: Opportunism. Taking out anyone, at any cost, and not having to form his own case on anyone, ever.

He sometimes gave bull spit reasons, but anyone can create a 3-second "this is why" which is a thinly-vieled attempt to cover his tracks.



You have nothing to lose by merely considering my suggestion. Do you guys consider yourselves mafia players, or casual fanboys? This is the big leagues, the vanilla games, where you don't get help. You have to guess based on subtlety, and on psychology, on murder patterns, and on votes. I am even giving you a big hint, this current path loses the game for the town. Consider that I am telling the truth, while you have the time and can afford to, and GO BACK and re-read the thread until you see what I am saying.

Please.