Islamic group to build mosque adjacent to ground zero

**drone** · 08-03-2010, 16:16

Just to throw a little more fuel on the fire, the proposed date for the grand opening is September 11, 2011.

**Fragony** · 08-03-2010, 16:20

Originally Posted by drone

Just to throw a little more fuel on the fire, the proposed date for the grand opening is September 11, 2011.

How obvious does one want it, the Cordoba mosque, on that date. Fall of Cordoba, bit like 1453 symbolicaly.

**Don Corleone** · 08-03-2010, 16:20

Originally Posted by drone

Just to throw a little more fuel on the fire, the proposed date for the grand opening is September 11, 2011.

Fascinating. Yeah, they don't mean any insult or provocation at all, do they...

**Fragony** · 08-03-2010, 16:32

Originally Posted by Don Corleone

Fascinating. Yeah, they don't mean any insult or provocation at all, do they...

They know perfectly well that political correctness will kick in when it willl inevitably be vandalised. Works no different in the States

**Ser Clegane** · 08-03-2010, 20:14

Originally Posted by drone

Just to throw a little more fuel on the fire, the proposed date for the grand opening is September 11, 2011.

Will this be the opening or the start of construction (they will certainly have to speed up a bit if they intend to open it by then)?

Either way the date is a bit unfortunate - at least considering the current atmosphere. I it wasn't so tense already the date might actaully be used to send a very clear message along the lines of "look what happened 10 years ago. This is not what we stand for. What happened 10 years ago is against what we believe in. On this day we want to show that we are muslims Americans and that we are part of this city"
Alas, if they ever intended to send such a message, it will probbaly be seen as lip service by many considering how the debate already went.

Too sad - might be a missed opprtunity for all people involved...

**drone** · 08-03-2010, 20:32

Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

Will this be the opening or the start of construction (they will certainly have to speed up a bit if they intend to open it by then)?

My bad on that. Demo and groundbreaking starts later this year. Construction slated to start 9/11/2011.

**Sasaki Kojiro** · 08-03-2010, 20:53

Originally Posted by drone

My bad on that. Demo and groundbreaking starts later this year. Construction slated to start 9/11/2011.

Ah, so they're waiting 10 years before starting it.

**drone** · 08-03-2010, 20:59

Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Ah, so they're waiting 10 years before starting it.

**Hax** · 08-03-2010, 21:14

Ground zero, 3000 dead. I think I would kinda know.

If you possess psychic powers, I know some people who can get you into the business. You do not know their intents. Only they do, really.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 08-04-2010, 01:05

Originally Posted by Hax

If you possess psychic powers, I know some people who can get you into the business. You do not know their intents. Only they do, really.

Well, them and their God, but no one's totally sure if it's actually my God. Perspecetive is a powerful thing.

One example from this very case: In Islam Cordoba is a paragon of co-existence and interfaith relationships nearly 1,000 years old. In Christianity it is the capital of a Muslim encrouchment into Western Christendom, which the Spanish in particular would like to wipe from the collective conciousness. There are Muslims who still desire the return of Cordoba to Islam, there are Christians who desire they return of Constantinople to Christendom.

Such is the way of things, neither side is really satisfied with the current liminal situation of the Hagia Sophia, Mosque on Saturday, Church on Sunday.

For this reason, and others, Christianity and Islam will continue to wage spiritual war, the debate between moderates and fanatics is whether the war should spill over into physical violence.