OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[TinCow]

True, but saying it like that doesn't have the same potential to cause problems.

[Zim]

Just reread the Battle of Trent from KotR. I'd almost forgotten how fun it was, even with a fairly bit part. with so many people headed for Const, I wonder if we'll be seeing a big battle there soon...

[Ituralde]

Gah! I'm gone for one day and everything goes crazy! I've got some reading to do it seems. Forgive me if I won't be up to date until tomorrow.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Lol.. It's funny how Theo fights all these battles. When I decided to take some time off I gave a short story that Theo had an accident on ship and thus he is crippled. But now he have fought heroic battles, got famous battle markers and even got into Royal Family! And he should be crippled and not being able to move without someone helping!!!!

[_Tristan_]

Tincow : Georgios will be starting in Gaza

[rossahh]

Can I ask whoever downloads the save in the near future to do an experiment for me? Could they kill off the Basileus, Caesar and Ioannis III and see who is the new Basileus/Caesar?

[ULC]

Already Done - It goes, in order - Ioannis Tagaris, Andronikos Komenos, Iaonnis Kalameteros, Helarionas Anargiros. Not sure after Helarionas, since it seems to depend on save after that - It can either Be Vakchos Tzetis, or strangely enough Kousinos Sophianos, rarely picking Isaakios Komnenos. It refuses to pick anyone else other then those 7 for Basileus/Caesar.

[Zim]

TinCow mentioned once Ioannis III being picked as heir, but I think that was with a test before Helarionas married into the family.

It's nice to see the fruits of Ramses and Cecil's labor. MTW2's rather low movement rates made it take an eternity for them to get close enough to make the big announcement.

[Cecil XIX]

I blame the lack of proper infastructure in Anatolia. I mean, where were the paved roads?

[TinCow]

MTW2's rather low movement rates made it take an eternity for them to get close enough to make the big announcement.

This is one of the main issues that has become apparent with the current PvP system. I would certainly recommend a complete re-write of these rules for future games.

[Zim]

Well, there are a few mods that greatly increase the movement rates, like BC. Although then you get a new problem where it's hard to intercept someone who decides to go around your army for one of your settlements (well, if the have siege engines at least).

The addition of negative traits for being in the field too long hurts a bit as well. You have to wait forever to reach your destination and when you arrive you'll have big negative morale bonuses. I think some of the reluctance to travel far to fight in the last few civil wars may be partly because of that...

This is one of the main issues that has become apparent with the current PvP system. I would certainly recommend a complete re-write of these rules for future games.

[ULC]

A possible solution to this is double movement per turn - it's a bit cumbersome, but it allows the doubled pace needed, coupled with the actual ability to intercept an opponent before he arrives, although it becomes a bit of a race to who can get to the save first, and it requires each avatar having their movement reset, along with whichever Captain stacks they are trying to reinforce themselves with, so with to many wandering stacks it can get a bit nuts

[Zim]

I suppose we'll get something worked out for the next game. Or, for all we know, ETW might be different enough that it's less of a problem...

At this point I can't complain. No way I could have beefed up Const's defenses if the attack had been more sudden.

[Zim]

I see Ramses and friends are off in the opposite direction from Const. I have this sneaking suspicion that while there will be pvp battles resulting from this latest Civil War it will take a very, very long time.

[miniwally]

I got a couple of questions i'd be thankful if someone answered them (sorry i'm a noob :P)

1. what's a fealty oath
2. what's a vassal
3. where do you save the different patches and downloads to etc.
4. what's stopping a person from not showing you the battle if he died in it
5. where is disk 2 to medieval total war in my house

[miniwally]

6. what different types of oath are there?

[Zim]

1. It's an oath that ties you as a vassal to someone.

2. Being a vassal ties you to your lord in a few ways. For instance, you become at war with anyone who declares war on him (you can get out by breaking your oath, though...). Mainly, your rank depends on how many vassals you have, and higher ranks gain certain perks. Lords have to figure out for themselves what they can offer players to swear fealty to them, land and armies for example, or just a major role in decision making in the House (group of players sworn in a chain) You can both have vassals and be one, and most Houses are formed in a chain from lowest to highest rank.

3. Saves are downloaded here. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local....php?catid=199
There are links to everything you need to install in this post. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...89&postcount=3

4. Absolutely nothing in battles with only one player, although someone caught doing so would likely get in quite some trouble...

5. No clue.

Rules, installation links, etc. can be found in this thread. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=103874

[TheFlax]

You should probably read this thread first: FAQ and Rules

Edit:Zim beat me to it in his edit

[miniwally]

i did

[miniwally]

and yes that shows me what to download but i want to know where to download them to

[TheFlax]

As an aside, it seems its not a good time to be Basileus...

[Zim]

The mod and patches have installers I think, and directions on the pages they're linked to...

As for saves, after installing the mod you should have a "Stainless Steel" folder in your MTW2 folder. Inside of that is the "saves" folder for the mod. Just extract any saves you download into that folder.

[woad&fangs]

As an aside, it seems its not a good time to be Basileus...

You could just surrender to me, you know

[TheFlax]

You could just surrender to me, you know

I'm waiting for more rebels to announce themselves. You know, keeping my options open regarding that surrender.

[Zim]

Well, I can break my oath to Woad and then secede with my Adriatic provinces.

I'm waiting for more rebels to announce themselves. You know, keeping my options open regarding that surrender.

[TheFlax]

That would truly make my day. Anyone else?

Well, I can break my oath to Woad and then secede with my Adriatic provinces.

[ULC]

That would truly make my day. Anyone else?

I have the urge to create a Bulgarian Empire

[Zim]

In a conversation with flyd a better name than the Bastard Rebellion for the current war came up.

The War of Marching Around a Lot.

For my own amusement I think when it's all done I'm going to make a little map of the paths taken by all the different participants.

[TheFlax]

I have the urge to create a Bulgarian Empire

[ULC]

Or simply be your reclamation tool, I am married to your sister after all and I respected Methodios. Considering Zim has only this turn to make himself a rebel too, can I have some of the men around Dardanellia to augment my forces and begin bringing those who oppose your rule "back into the fold" with an "offer they can't refuse"?

Pretty please ?


Please ?