KotR Out of character thread VI

[TinCow]

As much as I would love to write a battle report where I get destroyed by the Mongols in an open field assault, Lothar is staying at home.

econ21:
The von Hamburgs are Franconia.

[FactionHeir]

And I thought Lothar wanted to fight something - not like I'd send you in alone. A few peasants would of course follow

But really. I don't think I'd send any small stack against a mongol horde. More like vast field battles if anything. Probably also going to train some assassins as backup (i.e. hiring hashashins)

[econ21]

econ21:
The von Hamburgs are Franconia.

I know, I was making a counter-proposal, Franconia instead of Bavaria. Franconia has a lot of spare avatars and without one of his sons to accompany him, FLYdude would be the only Franconian in Outremer.

[Stig]

Well, we should get more played Franconians in Franconia itself first imo. There are only 2 there now.

[FactionHeir]

Franconia has a lot of spare avatars though, so I guess it depends on the Franconian duke to direct how many Franconians he wants to allow to partake in the crusade.

[Kagemusha]

How many nobles do we already have in levant or about to embark there? I dont think we should have too many so there would be an real threat of disaster there when the Mongols attack. I think that we need a anti crusade party in this game.

[Stuperman]

like say perhaps a 0 piety, witch scarred Gerhard Steffen ?

[Kagemusha]

Yep.There should be also some slight changes on Jonas Von Mahrens character.Soon you guys will find out,when few stories will be released in the stories thread.

[Stig]

I think that we need a anti crusade party in this game.

I'd gladly volunteer , as I've been banging about how more important the Heimat is.

[Kagemusha]

I'd gladly volunteer , as I've been banging about how more important the Heimat is.

I think we can work on something inside character.

[FactionHeir]

Maybe I ought to send Stig's avatar on a tour around the empire to build watchtowers so he can enjoy looking at all corners of the Heimat

[Stig]

Maybe I ought to send Stig's avatar on a tour around the empire to build watchtowers so he can enjoy looking at all corners of the Heimat

Aslong as you retake my city

[FactionHeir]

I could be mean and say "meh, there is no edict for it and I could take it back on the last turn because you didn't believe I was able to take it back", but I (probably) won't ;)

[TinCow]

The Franconians could just order their Household Army to take it. I think it would still be technically legal for you to stall on that, but they would score points against you in the Diet if you did so.

[StoneCold]

Probably not a good idea given how advance Thorn is. The Russians might be churning out some super troops from there if you wait too long given the $$ we are pumping into the AI economy. :P Also the lack of a major fortress in the East Franconia will hurt resupply of new troops...

[OverKnight]

@TC and FH: Let's burn that bridge when we get to it.

(Yes, I'm intentionally mixing metaphors.)

[FactionHeir]

Technically I could send the FHA to take it on turn 9, since there is no timespan in which you have to fulfill HA orders, but since its one of my own stated goals I'll probably send stuff there by turn 2.
Was just an OOC joke anyway.

[edit]
I don't quite understand what you mean OK A week of mindless data entry has numbed my senses

[StoneCold]

ahhah, and about the French fortress you bavarians guys are talking about, that would be a good base to help out the Portuguese from.

[Stig]

Also the lack of a major fortress in the East Franconia will hurt resupply of new troops...

Hence why I was count there, but the Russians attacked when I was out of town

[StoneCold]

But Stig, without being knighted you cannot fight the battle yourself, it will still be autoresolved as stated in the rules. Your Avatar would probably just have died there given how that battle turn out.

[Stig]

Well no, as the battle was about even. The appearance of a 2 star general would have turned it in our favour.

[FactionHeir]

Wouldn't have been too bad, Franconia has spare avatars heh.

[Stig]

Wouldn't have been too bad, Franconia has spare avatars heh.

heheh

[TinCow]

But Stig, without being knighted you cannot fight the battle yourself, it will still be autoresolved as stated in the rules. Your Avatar would probably just have died there given how that battle turn out.

Actually, the rules don't specifically state that. You have to be a Knight before you can be an Army Commander, but you only need to be an Army Commander if your army is 7 units or more. This means that even non-knighted avatars can lead armies that are 6 units or less. I would also argue that in the case of a non-knighted avatar being attacked while in a town, the units in the town are a garrison, not an army, and as such the 7 unit limit wouldn't apply. Even if people didn't agree with this interpretation, I can't imagine there would be much opposition in the Diet to allowing a guy to defend himself when he's the only avatar in the battle.

[Ituralde]

Just a quick note that the coop story between Leopold and von Mahren is up! The placeholder has been filled.

[FactionHeir]

2.6 Battles are only fought manually when commanded by a player controlled general who is an army commander. They are autoresolved in all other cases (e.g. captain-led armies).

Considering we lost the title Army commander, this would either read knight or be open to interpretation.

[Stig]

That's a bug in the rules really, as this army wouldn't have been captain led.
Still I think the fact that a 2 star general was there would have tipped the balance.

[TinCow]

Sounds like we need another housekeeping amendment to clean that up next time. The original military scheme we planned for KOTR has been so butchered and ignored, it would be good to simply rewrite it.

[Stuperman]

I'd go for that, the Charter is starting to look a little hacked up as it is, re-doing a some of it would be a good Idea.

[FactionHeir]

Kagemusha: Are you saying you want to abandon the siege of Thessalonica and leave it in Venetian hands?!